Comments on: Attention, Attention! The Baroness Speaks.

By: David G

David G — Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:02:40 +0000

You are probably right, LT. One rule for the rich and/or titled and another for the peasants.

By: LT

LT — Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:40:10 +0000

“…punishment for breaking that rule is many years in prison”
Me thinks not… penalties such as the one you mention is only reserved for commoners. Different rules apply to a Baroness just like they do to the Blairs, the Bushes and Cheney of the world.

By: David G

David G — Fri, 23 Jul 2010 03:42:38 +0000

That is fair comment, Magda. I guess to be a whistle-blower requires a lot of courage especially in an Intelligence organization where everyone is sworn to secrecy and the punishment for breaking that rule is many years in prison.

That she has revealed some of the lies now is better late than never.

By: Magda

Magda — Fri, 23 Jul 2010 03:25:52 +0000

She is only speaking now, years after the event and millions of deaths and lives ruined and still ongoing. And she asked for a budget increase (for her silence?). I can’t admire her. She could have spoken at the time. Not just to Bliar but publicly and persistently and put the lie on the bs statements from number 10 and their enablers. She’s as bad as all the others. The lesser of 2 evils is still evil. She is part of the problem. Instead of making sure the truth was heard and making sure she was in front of the cameras she held Tony’s hand bag for him while he fronted the media all those years keeping their little secret secret.

By: David G

David G — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 21:21:01 +0000

LT, apparently she did advise against invading Iraq but the British politicians, well, you how how the British love a good scrap (as long as they can send other peoples’ kids to be killed)!

By: LT

LT — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 20:42:32 +0000

“Baroness Eliza Manningham-Buller… head of MI5 in the U.K. from 2002 to 2007…”
ahhh mhhh… well not to disagree with your assessment of honor regarding this lovely lady, BUT where the hell was she when the world needed her most! Yes, true… she has come forward revealing knowledge that as the head of MI5 probable had back 2002. A bit too little too late!

By: David G

David G — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:26:45 +0000

76-water, I was taught the same values. I still believe in them and try to embrace them. I agree with your point about being taken advantage of but at least I can look in the mirror without grimacing!

If everyone respected themselves and others, the world would be a better place.

By: 76-water

76-water — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 23:10:25 +0000

Oh my, is’nt the whole world a mess. Those with dignity, integrity, and honest values need not apply. The ruthless seem to have it pretty well rapped up. I feel fortunate here to be able to communicate with rational human be-ings. Now that I am not as young as yesterday, I wonder what was the value of being taught right from wrong, honest as the best policy ect. When the world we live in is run b y those who don’t practice such beliefs. Often because of my personal values others found it easy to take advantage of me. It seems to me that a lot of people got ahead in life at the demise of others. One thing though, I still have my self respect, can’t put a price on it really. Good times to all.

By: David G

David G — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 22:05:15 +0000

I guess there are people screaming right across the world, Pete. Some of them are innocent Muslims, people at weddings, innocent bystanders. They die or lose limbs when American missiles are flying. They get cancer from depleted uranium used by the Allies and die terrible deaths. They burn from phosphorous bombs.

If war and violence were rejected then no one would need to scream, would they?

Cheers.

By: Pete

Pete — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:09:39 +0000

I was identifying with whar Buller said from 2004 when she was in MI5. Regarding “All this talk about “We have to fight ‘terrists over there’ before they engulf us is pure crap.”

Of the Bali bombers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bali_bombers who killed 88 of our fellow Australians:

- Amrozi Nurhasyim “was allegedly motivated by his view of American foreign policy, which he deemed to have an imperialist agenda toward the Islamic world.”

- Muklas http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huda_bin_Abdul_Haq
“After the eventual defeat of the Soviet Union and installation of the Taliban as Afghanistan’s rulers, Muklas returned to South East Asia to conduct operations for Jemaah Islamiah. He was named head of JI’s “Mantiqi One”, a regional network covering Sumatra, Singapore, Malaysia and southern Thailand. Muklas then co-founded an Islamic school in Malaysia that was to be used as a local training ground for JI operatives.

Muklas stuffed up the bombs he built in Bali. The slow uneven burn of his bombs burnt some Aussie girls I know slowly to death.

One can dissociate and intellectualise about the nasties that kill your sisters quite easily.

It is indeed the whole sweep of anti-American history but they are our Australian sisters and they screamed. Noting that the bastards who built the bombs usually killed and raped their own “honour killings” when away from “righteous” anti-American operations.

Regards

Pete