**but you seem to be pushing the conclusion that if you wipe out the United States, you end the problem. **

no you’re the one who say it, but then it isnt far off the truth either.
tell me mb, whose hand was behind all the coups , sabotages, unrest and wars, all the bloodshed and mayhem in the past decades, no, make it past five decades ?
get the idea ?

i am not here to “defend china” , i just cant stand bs.
you are echoing a current myth pervading in many alternate sites, never mind the msm, which claims that china is akin to the new “evil empire” taking over amerrika’s rule, me think this reeks of disinfo.

i dont know why u harp about china’s environment disaster and it’s increasing materialistism and social decadence, its a huge problem but its a threat to the chinese themselves,
as for china the new “satan” taking over the reign from amerikka …….
you wanna bet ?
if ten yrs from now, i’ll make it fifty if you are game, you hear a news bulletin which announe that “200 civilians, mostly women and children, were killed in a bombing raid this morning in……[some 3 world country]“,
who’d you think the perpetrator might be, i say it would still be amerikka and its nato cohorts.

as for your other claim that china has been “having it easy with the alternate sites”, you didnt answer me when was the last time kashmir, for example, was highlighted in the alternate sites, let alone the msm.
well i will help u out with this one, there’s a recent piece, a rare one, do read it AND THE cOMMENTS TOO, there IS an elephant in the room mb and it aint china !
http://tinyurl.com/yl4jrse
and it isnt limited to the msm either.

America is one of the world’s youngest civilizations, one with only 5% of the world’s population, and is a country that claims it is a democracy when the truth is that it is run by greedy corporations, religious fundamentalists, politicians, the military and a handful of wealthy individuals.

To further add to the confusion, China owns much of the U.S. and the U.S. wants to make lots of money out of the emergence of China. Of course, America wants to be King of the World but China, not really known as an imperial power in the Roman-American style (although its occupation of Tibet is regrettable), is not going to allow America to force it into an inferior position.

There are no absolutes here. It is a work in progress!

Cheers.

in case u havent noticed, china is one issue that unite the left, right and centre in the west. tibet, for example, has been done to death in the msm AND no less critically in alternate media [dv, cd, cif, huffposts, etc etc, ], can u tell me when was the last time kashmir, or assam, nagaland, manipur , aceh, west papua etc was featured in the alterante sites in the past ten yrs, never mind the msm ?

**And when I say China is not innocent in any of this..it is because China has willingly subsidized the Imperialist Prosperity of the U.S. and the West for the past 25-30 years. If it was so pure, it would have gone the route of Iran and refused to get in bed with the “devil.” **

whoever but you said china is “pure” ?
china is just looking out for its own interest …..surprise surprise, its just like everybody else
but at least china doesnt do economic hitmen, coups, blackops and wars, tis is a whole lot “purer” than the democrazies in persuing its goal.

**It’s now too intertwined to unravel itself from the death grip of the Greedy Python hell bent on subsuming the universe….in fact, it’s now been absorbed and is very much a part of that Greedy Python choking the life out of every living thing, perceived and unperceived**

lest u forget, india has long jumped on uncle sham’s bandwagon, russia has already changed side, right now china is the only one standing between amerikka and iran
http://tinyurl.com/yeouy9k

China is no innocent party in any of this, denk….and I don’t subscribe to the notion that the enemy of my enemy is my friend. That philosophy doesn’t fit here….and it’s a flawed philosophy anyway. I don’t believe China is an enemy of Oligarchical Tyranny and Totalitarianism….it is part of it. And, China is not one monolithic entity, nor is the U.S. As my one link indicated, there were vast differences (socially, politically and demographically) between three generations in just one Chinese family.

And when I say China is not innocent in any of this..it is because China has willingly subsidized the Imperialist Prosperity of the U.S. and the West for the past 25-30 years. If it was so pure, it would have gone the route of Iran and refused to get in bed with the “devil.” It’s now too intertwined to unravel itself from the death grip of the Greedy Python hell bent on subsuming the universe….in fact, it’s now been absorbed and is very much a part of that Greedy Python choking the life out of every living thing, perceived and unperceived.

??, i have been using the same isp for the past 10 yrs now.
what i meant was my previous posts appeared instantly whereas the latest one was held up for moderatiom.
it now occurs to me its coz of the number of links used, which triggered the system’s antispam software. !

Morocco Bama
**Much of the criticism bandied about these days in the alternate media, to include blogs, is directed at the U.S. and Israel……and that criticism is warranted and well-deserved….but it comes at a cost of not critically evaluating the rest of the world and the entire picture. China is not without criticism, and this is an opportunity to review just what exactly is going on in China.**

u seem to suggest that china has gotten off lightly with the “ic” [international communities], my own observation for the past five decades suggest exactly the opposite to be true, if anything , china has been singled out for demonisation, psyops and disinformation, never mind overt and covert operations, ever since uncle sham’s puppet dictator chiang “lost” china to the communits in 1949.
http://tinyurl.com/6xdr54

why initiate moderation now ?

in this guardian piece,
http://tinyurl.com/yckhle8

the good professor ac graling claimed that china is
**an imperialist, irredentist, massively human-rights-violating totalitarian state that will use any means to get its way** [sic]

this is my reply…

[such as .......?

torturing the locals who are unwilling to part with their possession and land..........no, i am not talking about gitmo either.
this fine western tradtion goes way back to centuries ago
http://tinyurl.com/26l5ur

bumping off leaders who refuse to submit to the washington concensus ?
http://tinyurl.com/lvkxby

killers who slit women and children's throat at night....after raping them ?
http://tinyurl.com/kob8mv

false flags ?
http://tinyurl.com/98kd4

blackops ?
http://tinyurl.com/3czfjq

sabotages ?
http://tinyurl.com/d8up42
[jim press, spare us your infantile ned/soros wisecracks, they have blood on their hand , lots of it, you do care about hr, i presume ?]

cultivating yet more “our kind of guys”
http://tinyurl.com/4fndqt

coups ?
http://tinyurl.com/2gn6g

covert wars ?
http://www.fpif.org/fpiftxt/6141

proxy wars ?
http://tinyurl.com/4tndam

outright invasions ?
http://tinyurl.com/fqpck

biowar…….now whats with this “advanced forms of biological warfare that can ‘target’ specific genotypes ” ?
http://tinyurl.com/5afu9g

phew, what’d they think of next !!
hell, u aint seen nuthin yet, i am writing a 5000 pages book on the subject right now]
but i am afraid the accursed chicoms would disappoint you big time, professor of philosophistry, no less.
see, those chicoms are one trick ponies, their modus operandii is always monies talk, they might be willing to grease some palms to get the job done…..just like everybody else.
but there’s all there is to it, sorry professor, the chinese are rather simple folks really, they dont even understand the concept of hr lol.
may be they should consider sending their cadres to the school of americas to immerse themselves in the democratic way of getting things done in a jiffy.
i heard the soa has changed its name to some fancy stuff ?]

my point is, uncle sham has lots of dirty tricks up his sleeve, dont write him off just yet.