Seek peace and beauty in nature’s scene,
And avoid where humans strut and preen,
For their behavior is insufferable and mean.
DANGEROUS CREATION — for thinkers.
"Argue not with fools, frauds, fops, and fanatics. Seek instead better companions." ——– "Any man who tries to change the world is either a fool or a dreamer. Some men are both! Pity them because the world reviles them!"
beautiful gift David, thanks!
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David G Reply:
March 16th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
Sometimes dealing with the affairs of the world gets all too much, Catauro. It is good to remind oneself that there is another world separate from the ugliness of the human one.
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this is my doctrine……………
who wrote the poem?
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There is a book called Living At The Source, by Swami Vivekananda. I gave my copy to a friend and need a new one. That book is so special, because it crosses the line and shows the reader how – there is no searching, you are already there. Just wake up to who you are. The Source IS peace. Ahh.
I don’t know about this world, David. Lately I have been thinking how thoroughly the US & Israeli Military (we pay for them, they must be our Mossad, too) has polluted this Planet. If they nuke the world and we manage to survive, all of the waste products alone from the MIC seem overwhelmingly toxic. Sorry to sound negative, but that is my new predicament I am trying to resolve.
I do want peace on Earth. This is a very special place.
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This should cheer you up. It’s just as I surmised…..the end of the Nation/State phase of Civilization and the dawn of the Global Feudalism. It also explains why Israel’s about to be dumped.
http://neithercorp.us/npress/?p=268
Economy Kept On Life Support While Global Governance Is Organized
Since the “Great Recession” began, economic forums and conferences such as the G20, and the annual World Economic Forum (WEF) in Davos, Switzerland have spoken of little else except the formation of a centralized world economy and the establishment of a legal body that has the power to run it. At the Davos “workshops,” economists and others present ideas for world governance as if they were the originators of the concept. It may not be surprising to most of us that there is rarely if ever anyone who participates in the WEF meetings that supports the restoration of national sovereignty. In fact, nearly all the participants seem to assume that a world government is the solution to all our ills. It is also important that like the G20, government officials from all over the world attend, including those from the U.S., and that very often the policies developed at these forums end up in legislation and mass media here at home. Meaning, the laws and propaganda supporting forced globalization and world government are fine tuned at the meetings and then brought to America for mass consumption. Below are a couple video examples of Davos workshops:
It is important to recognize what exactly is being presented in these two videos because they reveal much about our current economic circumstances. The goal of the G20 and the WEF, as they have stated on numerous occasions, is to dissolve national sovereignty. If they had their way, America as we know it would not exist, along with the Constitutional framework that is meant to protect our liberties. To achieve this end, a carefully engineered breakdown of the U.S. dollar is being enacted.
As we have shown, U.S. treasuries auctions have tanked and those long term treasuries already held by foreign nations are being slowly cast off. So far, the Federal Reserve has propped up the dollar by purchasing T-bonds in the place of foreign banks who no longer want them. By continually monetizing this debt, the Fed will inflate an incredible bubble in the treasury market. When will this bubble burst? The key lay in the rules governing Special Drawing Rights.
Special Drawing Rights (SDRs) are securities much like treasury bonds. Their value is determined by a basket of international currencies including the Dollar, the Euro, the Yen, and the Pound Sterling. The IMF claims that SDRs are not technically considered currency, but SDRs serve nearly all the functions of a currency except that they are not available to the general public (yet). It walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, but the IMF would rather not call it a duck. In the end, the SDR is a world reserve currency, and its purpose is to topple the dollar.
Not long after the economic meltdown began, the IMF announced that they would begin the unlimited printing of SDRs. In 2009, within the span of a few months, SDR circulation went from $21 billion, to nearly $204 billion, and this is only the amount they have admitted to.
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Grace Reply:
March 17th, 2010 at 5:32 am
Being a sovereign Nation used to mean something when there were real ideals that we aspired to and held important. When being an American citizen meant that we were a beacon of light, an island of human rights in a sea of despots, dictators and torture. Founders of this Nation were not oblivious to torture. It had been used throughout Europe and beyond since early times. We made a conscious choice to NOT be like the others….Fast forward to the future, aka: today. We are just like the Others so we might as well form onebighappyfamilyoneworldgovernment. Of course this is contrary to the Founders advice to not leave our shores to Nationbuild. They said our strength would be in staying here and taking care of business here. If we would have followed that advice we would still be the mighty America of people’s dreams. People like Reagan, the biggest flag-waver of them all, that boldly presented America as the Ultimate Planetary Sheriff. we could go around the world, not just covertly but as peacekeeping forces everywherere. The military economy was beginning its full swing ahead to now – a toxic gun-toting Policeman. No longer giving direction but taking directions from a power that is NOT, We The People. Something global, yet exclusive; select few get to sit up like big-boys and a few girls at the big table.
To be continued…
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Grace Reply:
March 17th, 2010 at 5:57 am
SDR’s – “Their value is determined by a basket of international currencies including the Dollar, the Euro, the Yen, and the Pound Sterling.”
I see, the Dollar has no value at all unless we join up with the others. We will be so desperate that it will become the natural course of events. It seems the easiest solution since America does not produce anything anymore. The problem lies with the peasants, aka, The People. They will say this is contrary to the Founder’s vision of America and we the people are supposed to have a revolution in circumstances like this. It turns out Revolution strikes fear in the heart of the New World Order. They think they are prepared for everything as though they will beat the fates. It is a strange thing to live on Gods greenblue Earth. Living as a creature known as human. Some humans take it upon themselves to Lord over other humans and every living thing. They want to own everything. They want to own the air we breathe! How perverse is that?! It is a game of Monopoly: The Horror Movie. I wish it were a movie and we were peaceful, loving creatures who all the other animals looked up to as protectors…
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And Grace, I hope you and your husband will stand with my wife and I in refusing to complete the Census. DARPA and the NSA already have all the information on us they need…..the Census is an exercise in Totalitarian control….regardless of its official cover. Don’t cooperate.
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Grace Reply:
March 17th, 2010 at 5:10 am
I immediately went over to my husband’s desk and opened the just received Census. The questions are invasive. What race a person is seems very important! It did strike fear – even though we have nothing to hide. I shiver and agree that they already know who is living here and our ages. They want to know race and who is sleeping on the couch and what race they are. I will have a talk with my husband this evening. Thanks.
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Grace Reply:
March 18th, 2010 at 5:20 am
“.it’s too late for this generation. The capacity and potential isn’t there.”
For my own reasons, because of sickness and contemplating death, I have put my hopes in the future. It seems a race against time. I do believe our kids are free in a way that I certainly wasn’t in my youth.
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Coco, I hope you’re not too disappointed but I wrote the small verse.
Grace, this world could be a special place but humans would need to change themselves dramatically.
Morocco, working against the idea of world government is the fact that people like Obama and Putin and Berlusconi would not have their own kingdoms to lead. Instead they would become merely members of a committee. This is a powerful disincentive.
Grace, America, pushed by avaricious corporations and evangelicals and the greedy, grew too big for its boots, I’m afraid. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely!
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John Robertson (Robbo) Reply:
March 17th, 2010 at 9:46 am
David, great verse. It reminds me of Rabbie Burns.
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coco Reply:
March 17th, 2010 at 8:53 pm
not at all disappointed……….i think it’s great. i write poetry too. mainly about animals.
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Morocco, are you going to ignore the census completely or are you going to give them the number in the household and ignore the rest?
I was thinking of giving the number and then writing ‘none of your business’ as my answer to the other questions.
David thanks for the beautiful picture and poem.
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David G Reply:
March 17th, 2010 at 9:04 am
Unfortunately, the picture and poem didn’t elicit some peaceful comments, Kathy.
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Morocco Bama Reply:
March 17th, 2010 at 9:37 am
Kathy,
We are ignoring it completely. I tossed it in the trash this afternoon.
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Grace Reply:
March 17th, 2010 at 10:21 am
What about the part in BOLD on the front of the envelope next to our address saying, YOUR RESPONSE IS REQUIRED BY LAW. ? it had me nervous before I opened it. On the inside it tells me that the amount of Government money my neighborhood receives…depends on my answers. The next sentence explains: All the money for children, the elderly, roads, and many other local needs – depends on me.
There is no other mention of THE LAW any where else in the material.
I don’t know…
Sorry David, that darned dangerous creation always ruining a good peaceful post. : ]
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kathy Reply:
March 17th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Hi Grace, I just pulled mine out of the mail box. I see what you mean about the BOLD print on the envelope “REQUIRED BY LAW”. But they don’t say which law. The only thing I’ve ever known about the census is that it mentions in the Constitution that the numbers of people will be counted every ten years so that we can determine how many representatives our states are alloted to serve in congress. (One representative for every 30,000 people of that state.) That’s all. It wasn’t supposed to have anything to do with the elderly care, roads, childcare, services provided by the government to the states. NADA!
As far as roads go….who needs more road services???.. white or black or hispanic? Why would the federal government say that’s relevant for the census? I think it’s just one more step in the nanny state, or call it big brother or police state that they are trying to finish.
It also seems like they want a demographic by asking all these questions. How many young men and women are considered ‘fighting age for possible enlistment in the military?’ And even though they say they won’t expose your private information to others, I have to wonder how they will use it just for government/political gain. Elections can be won or lost I guess if you know you’re running in a state that needs to cater to the wants and needs of a majority of white women aged 18- 35 or whatever demographic that happens to be the majority.
This may be something more than I can imagine. I see Morroco’s point. They already have all this information through other outlets of information collection. Not sure why they even need to have a census any more since they have so much information on us.
But Morocco, I’m interested in knowing why you are ignoring it completely. I know you stated earlier that it’s because you believe it’s totalitarian. But do you believe it’s that because of so many questions or, just the process of having us ‘numbered’?.. So they can get an idea of how many slaves will fully comply?
Do you guys ….going forward….even think that we need government of any type? Would there be total anarchy without government? I think there would be anarchy. But what to do?? How will we ever get to the peacefulness that we all crave?
Morocco Bama Reply:
March 17th, 2010 at 10:30 pm
Kathy,
As I’ve said, and you’ve agreed, they already have this information……all of it. I feel the only purpose of this exercise is to make us comply……yet again. They continue prodding us to test our limits of cooperation. Look at how nervous they have Grace. She sees REQUIRED BY LAW and she gets cold feet. Seriously, when do we stop and laugh at ourselves when we can’t even cooperate with each other on a minor soft revolutionary tactic such as this?
Inch by inch they require obedience out of you….that’s how Totalitarianism, in its manifest forms, works. Are you going to march you and your family to relocation facilities when the time comes because it’s REQUIRED BY LAW? You may call that silly….but if you’ve trained yourself to comply with the Law, even for something as seemingly minor and inconsequential as the Census, then how do you expect you will have the nerve to break it when it’s something more substantial? Overcome that fear and grip they have on you now….whilst you have the chance to hone that skill….because when the time comes…and it very well may…you won’t have the capacity to resist.
Grace Reply:
March 18th, 2010 at 3:50 am
Morocco, ok, I am busted, caught. I had to think about why I like the law so much and it led me back to a chaotic and dangerous childhood. In this particular case, I can merely stand behind my husband who is intent on sending in the Census. He says that is the only official way to get any rerpresentation at all. I actually agree with you about the slow incremental, systematic conditioning of getting us used to being good obedient citizens. I admit it feels like the safe thing to do. My only run-ins with the law have been when they were there to protect me. I guess that is one of the benefits of being a white woman. I hear you, however. My thought process is revolutionary, but when it comes to taking action, I am cautious – is one word for it. I did get out in the street and protest the war. I have sent money to left wing organizations and written letters to politicians and participated in signing petitions. I can’t say I would go along in a trail of tears to the internment camp.
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Morocco Bama Reply:
March 18th, 2010 at 4:46 am
Sorry to hear that, Grace. David, if two like-minded individuals here can’t even collude to resist Empire then I’m afraid you’re right, and I’m right….it’s too late for this generation. The capacity and potential isn’t there. That’s exactly why my wife and I are concentrating on the future. We run into too many, most everyone really, who are just like Grace and her husband. They’re not willing to defy authority…until it’s too late.
Grace, I have news for your husband…..there is no representation anyway….the whole thing’s screwed from here to Kingdom Come.
Grace Reply:
March 18th, 2010 at 5:04 am
Morocco, on this particular point, I am not sure that “I “would send it in. It is not in my control unless I go behind and against my husband and throw it away.
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Morocco Bama Reply:
March 18th, 2010 at 5:46 am
Have you no say in the matter? My wife and I have a collaborative relationship with a syncratic decision process. We have discussed these issues in depth and we have decided, together, on our course of action.
In regards to the excuses for filling it out, give me a break. Do we really have to go over this considering everything’s that’s discussed on this blog and many others that purport to dissent? This is crisis time, Grace. The current system will not provide the solution. The solution must be derived and implemented external to the system, so cooperating with the Census because you falsely believe it will help you gain funds and representation, and thus alleviate the suffering of not only yourself, but the countless other far worse off victims of Empire, is foolhardy if not insane.
The Middle Class is so frightened of being like the poor that it is willing to do anything for the Masters of the Universe. The Middle Class will continue to obey authority and take its marching orders….double time…..half pay…..little to no benefits….stab your fellow colleagues in the back…..support the police…..comply with whatever….so long as it’s never considered poor…..and guess what? None of the acquiescing makes a bit of difference in maintaining its (Middle Class) status. The Middle Class of America is slipping away and I say good riddance. The Middle Class is the mechanism that has allowed this charade to carry on far too long.
Grace, you mentioned your husband was part Black Foot….or some tribe of Native American. Where is that blood? You mentioned it as though having that blood in him meant something special….well, where’s the fight? Where’s the resistance? Where’s the defiance that I would expect to see from a Black Foot Warrior? This man must be rolling in his grave….Black Foot blood and spirit so watered down and compromised that it parrots the propaganda of the European Invaders who destroyed this once upon a time paradise.
http://fineartamerica.com/featured/blackfoot-warrior-robert-m-walker.html
Grace Reply:
March 18th, 2010 at 5:13 am
One more thing. It is not that my husband is thoughtless. He has his reasons for what he does. He grew up in abject poverty. What money the government parcels out, matters to people in that situation.
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Grace Reply:
March 18th, 2010 at 6:13 am
Morocco, My husband’s Native American ancestry manifests mainly through his connection with nature. He had two grandfathers who had the Indian beat out of them in educational facilities after they had been taken from their families. We are not coneected to his family at all since his mother died. I think he has always felt like an outider from much of society.
We do talk, we talked last night. I told him about the possibility that this is just an exercise in obedience to a coming Totalitarianism (or something like that). He felt very strongly that the Census is part of the Constitution that allows us representation. The other things I mentioned – the fact that government already Has all of the information, and he was intent that this is the only official way to be counted. I have to choose my battles. I mean maybe I am married to the wrong man, but he is the father of my son and we are a family.
I make no pretense about my social class. I am a renter in an area where everyone who matters, own a house. half the week I drive a 20 year old car when all of my peers not only drive modern cars, but Mercedes and such. I am home on disability. I am sick. Good thing I am so much more than all that appears on paper.
My husband fixes computers. He works for a small owner business. Clients like him because he keeps to himself and does his job. He is not the type to gossip or anything of the sort. He is involved in Internet Security and he knows what is out there and keeps to himself.
I am free in a way that he doesn’t feel free. I am a legal medical marijuana patient. I have absolutely no privacy because of the medical team that are tryng to help me. Government already knows things about me that most people would shudder and feel violated. In order to receive healing it is important that I am compliant. I have been conditioned to be compliant and am in my seventh year of this.
Sorry to just be another diappointment to you, Morocco. As the Buddhists say, Expectations lead to diappointment. I hope I should not go crawl off and die now.
I don’t know where I am going. I detest
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Grace Reply:
March 18th, 2010 at 6:15 am
DiSappointment. Omg, I need new glasses bad!
David, it could just be the mood of the day answering to the last line of your poem that has to do with humans being ‘insufferable and mean.’ But there’s truth in the poem. Peace and beauty is found in nature, not so much with people!
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Here’s an interesting link. A little history.
http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/after-america-there-is-no-place-to-go/blog-254691/
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Grace Reply:
March 18th, 2010 at 3:41 am
Kathy, thanks for the link. I forwarded it to some people.
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David, I’m spotting my own serene scenery here in my neighborhood. Spring has sprung and there are patches of yellow buttercups in bloom everywhere. There are gorgeous blue birds everywhere.
One of my brothers actually built me a little blue bird house one year and he set it up on a post at the back of my property. There is a window above my kitchen sink so when I washed dishes I could look out and watch ‘my’ bluebirds. But alas, one day last year I looked out and my blue bird house was gone! Either the bluebirds relocated during the night and somehow took the house with them or someone stole it!
I can’t bear the thought that someone would steal it in my nice comfortable neighborhood where crime just doesn’t happen. So I have to go with the theory that the birds left in a move of non-compliance to show me that they were never ‘mine’ to watch!! ..Just wish they would have left me a note or something……
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I agree with Frank about the Census. It’s not even necessary….and it proves your husband is incorrect in his assertion, Grace. There are other mechanisms, that can easily be made “official”, for gathering Census data for purposes of enumeration….which is the only purpose of the Census mandated in the Constitution. This 2010 Census cycle will cost upwards of $15 billion. That’s nuts.
http://www.madisonjournaltoday.com/archives/2648-OPINION-Census-is-a-joke-and-a-waste-of-tax-money.html
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-08-554
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Grace Reply:
March 18th, 2010 at 6:59 am
One of the points my husband made was that the Census was geared to scare the shit out of Mexicans, who often live sometimes with large families in small apartments. He said Mexicans don’t fill out the census and is the reason why there are so many Mexicans in this Country and not any Representation in Washington for Mexican Districts – the very places that need funding and assistance.
I will share the above article with him. Not all is lost..
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Morocco Bama Reply:
March 18th, 2010 at 7:34 am
I laugh when people use the excuse that the Constitution mandates the Census. The Constitution is not the end all, be all that so-called conservatives make it out to be. In fact, those so-called conservatives are always, and I mean always, willing to ignore the document when it suits their purposes (take War and The Standing Army and its attendant, untouchable, ever-increasing budget). The Liberals/Progressives are no different. Tell me, where in the Constitution does it say that Cannabis should be illegal and an enforcement agency with a budget of $3 billion should be set up to maximize profits?
I agree with Jorge Carlin’s take on the Constitution….Rights and all that nonsense:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWiBt-pqp0E&feature=player_embedded
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Grace Reply:
March 18th, 2010 at 8:46 am
People raise one hand when they swear to tell the truth. I believe it has to do with the North African, All-seeing eye. One raises the hand in light of the truth. I learned about that when I was in Egypt.
The authors of the Constitution grew hemp. At one time it was The Law for anyone with land to grow hemp. People didn’t have a choice then , they HAD to grow pot for the State or go to jail.
Havng a license to buy, grow and consume marijuana is the beginning of Decriminalization. Treating it as a measurable substance that is grown in legally – as opposed ot illegal growing, sometimes on State lands that are an ecological disaster! Considering the real people, wasted lives spent rotting in prison in the well funded War On Drugs, I may still be in the dark ages, but it is a step towards more of the kind of place I would want to live.
Ok, here we go, here is my husband’s response to Frank’s article:
“I read the article. Total Conservative Garbage.
I’ll outline the problems:
1) We don’t do electronic voting. Why? Because the results can be fabricated.
2) We don’t use E-911 information. Why? Because the results include old and invalid information.
3) The extra questions in the census are not mandated by law; but not illegal. The reason for ethnicity requests is to validate that the results have not been obviously skewed; or that cultural groups have been intentionally left without representation.
This was Irish vs English vs French looong before our current cultural climate.
Most importantly, using computers increases the ability to falsify results enormously. When you put $$$ and computer together, the incentive to do wrong is overwhelming.
Additonally, the actual census will give researchers and reporters information that cannot be garnered elsewhere, and actually be able to compare non-official figures. Many very useful analysis are done from census data. Perhaps we should stop counting money too? People are theoretically money (either losing or gaining).
Interestingly, the people who intentionally or unintentionally don’t fill out the census can actually be accounted for, because certain percentages of each ethnic group attempts to opt-out. Validating the drop-outs actually has statistical value.
The census has a function, and it’s to count people.
The census was established in 1790. They used paper, and computers were a dream. This is the main reason why we still use paper. People have been complaining about the census since it was invented, and it’s usually the ones who have something to lose (such as declining growth or heavy immigration) that don’t like the idea. Some people don’t want others counted because they are prejudiced.
Now that rationality is cast out the window, let’s thow out the old laws and live without them.”
Now, all that said, I want to live in Peace. I do believe we need to fight the incursion on our rights. Not go quietly into that dark night. I respect you and your wife’s refusal to particpate in this exercise in counting Americans for all the reasons you stated. I get your anger. Standing for what you beleve can be lonely. I am still figuring out where I fit, in the scheme of things.
Morocco Bama Reply:
March 19th, 2010 at 6:46 am
I’ve seen many equally eloquent rationalizations for the establishment of the State of Israel, Grace…..and they’re just that, rationalizations.
Stand up and be counted as a proud member of Empire….the Empire that crushes all and everything beneath its boot heel.
I refuse to be counted.
Morocco Bama Reply:
March 19th, 2010 at 7:37 am
Total Conservative Garbage
Well then, I expect you and your husband will be out shopping for a Mercedes tonight since advocating fiscal responsibility is “Total Conservative Garbage.” Can you not see how you’re trained?
Amidst the furor over the Census, I hope that all of you have managed to find some moments of peace.
The beautiful flowers shown in the photograph are unaware of such things. They just enjoy the sunshine and fresh air and silence while happily providing nectar for the birds and insects.
Then, perhaps they are smarter than us!
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Morocco, please share reasons with me. I will fill out how many in my household because that part is constitutional. I don’t have a problem upholding the constitution on my end because my non compliance measures are aimed at getting government back to the same standards that our country was founded on.
I understand that the constitution isn’t a perfect document and I understand that it isn’t even a true contract because no one signed it, they only witnessed it. I understand that the document itself is an administrative document and not at all a good teaching document. In order to try to understand what the founding fathers meant you would have to at least read the federalist papers / anti-federalist papers, etc.
In order to understand the declaration of independance you would have to understand John Locke philosophy that spilled into Thomas Jefferson’s philosophy.
Black men were ‘given’ the right to vote 50 years before women were ‘given’ the right to vote in this country. I don’t like the word ‘given’ in this scenario. I think when mankind (includes women) realizes that we aren’t to be ‘given’ anything by government….that we already have rights that we were born with…then we might become enlightened in a different way.
I can understand if you are boycotting the census (a tiny little thing in the whole big scheme of things) because our so called representatives don’t hold to the constitution so why should we??? I really, really get that if that is your goal. But what is your goal?
You and your wife have determined your future goals. Do they include trying to restore an old constitutional way of life or are you looking to something beyond? I could go for anarchy if everyone in the world thought exactly like me…”do no harm to any other human unless they are trying to harm me or my family or neighbors.” Just buck the government traitors but be nice to each other! But I know this is not the world that I live in and no one thinks exactly like me.
I just got the email where you said that folks think the census is a constitutional mandate. You mentioned George Carlin. I thought George Carlin had a great message “there’s a big club and you ain’t in it……you and I ain’t in it.” lol he was good!!
So Morocco, if you don’t believe that the constitution is a thing we should work to restore, then I believe you and your wife have decided on something that could be even better. But what? No ‘ism’ …perhaps local government or tribunals? What takes the place of the corruption that we now have? It IS crisis time so I want to know what you picture as the replacement to the governments that we have known on this planet.
I do have major non compliance issues. I don’t believe we have to comply with all the statutes that are written by men and given the ‘color of law’ or ‘the force of law’ . The census is not my big deal any more than it is yours or anyone else’s.
We have millions of statutes in our country as does every other country that considers itself free. But instead of US trying to learn to comply with all those millions of statutes that the courts understand…lets dumb it down to the opposite side where we people can understand and say ‘WE ARE FREE’ …. Common law, (Simple) that represented early America….said if you don’t harm anyone else you are free to do whatever you want…(and suffer the consequences thereof.) I like truth because I believe that truth is supposed to be simple.
My oldest son is in a philosophy class right now and he dropped a bomb on me last week that “mom, we can’t ever be totally free!! “Total freedom would be dangerous.” I bite that hook and we are in discussions now. It’s all good…
Morocco, what is the future for you and your wife? Restore the constitution or go beyond it to another form of enlightenment that would fit today’s needs?
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Morocco, please share reasons with me.
I’ve shared all my reasons with you, Kathy. What more reason do you want?
1.) As Frank Gillespie asserts in his article to which I linked above, it’s not even necessary. The information they claim to need for enumeration is available from E-911 databases. All they would need to do is coordinate and aggregate that data…..and I’ll bet DARPA and the NSA already have it for so-called National Security purposes…but they would never tell us.
2.) Considering #1 above, what could possibly be their motivation for spending nearly $15 billion dollars for the 2010 Census cycle? I’ve never seen such a push for the Census. There are most likely a number of different reasons, but one of them is as I have already mentioned. To make you comply. It’s the Census now….tomorrow will be what?
And let me point out that it’s not the Census so much that’s raised my ire but the inability of people who consider themselves dissenters to gain solidarity on even a single issue as seemingly insignificant and innocuous as this….because it’s REQUIRED BY LAW.
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my non compliance measures are aimed at getting government back to the same standards that our country was founded on.
Kathy, the standards on which this country was founded were intended to preserve the wealth and status of a handful of affluent landowners and merchants. It was always a Plutocratic Oligarchy and the constitution was a blueprint for a governing mechanism to ensure its perpetuity.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2001/mar/29/politics
James Madison, who is very much the creator of our Constitution, said: “Never forget that the iron law of oligarchy always obtains; few people will always run everything, no matter what the institution or what the country.” The Constitution was carefully arranged for white men of property. Since then the franchise has been extended to the young, the black, the female; but because the sense of our oligarchy is everywhere, people don’t know about it, they have no place to find out.
When we decided to become a global empire after the war, it was Harry Truman who dropped two atomic bombs on Japan and made us a national security state and a militarised economy. Our citizens were not advised, they still don’t know. They still think that it’s a free, open country, but we decided to stay armed and to be involved in every country in the world. That was their decision – and who are ‘they’? They are traditionally the very wealthy: the one per cent that my cousin Al Gore dared mention at one point in the campaign as owning practically all the property in the country.
The one per cent dominates. They reign through 20% of the country who are doing very well. These are the prosperous people who we read about, people that are put in Congress and in the White House. Eighty per cent of the people are doing very badly and are rather poor.
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Morocco, you haven’t shared any of your reasons with me. You have sent links to other people’s reasons that don’t prove a damn thing to me. I don’t even know who Frank Gillespie is, much less why I should believe his article. (If it’s true that the government has wasted 15 billion to advertise the census then I agree.) In fact, I agree if they even just wasted $1.00 on the census.
Okay, just got your email about James Madison very much the author of the constitution….now we’re getting somewhere…… (Maybe)
You asked me what more do I want….well, now you are giving some of ‘it’ to me. You are showing me some of your beliefs in that the constitution was lacking….working for the small percentage of oligarchy… Good for you. Truth comes through! I agreed with you in my prior post that the constitution is lacking. But I did ask you “WHAT COMES NEXT?’ For you and your wife? How do you see this played out? Oligarchy is not what I want. What form of government do you and your wife seek? That is what you have not told me so far and it is what I want to know. (Anarchy is all I can get to and it’s not what I want because I believe it will be horrible before it gets better.)
Administrative work in my prior days tells me that you don’t bring a problem to the table unless you can offer real solutions to take the place of the problem! (and you have to explain yourself too) (It won’t count if you are condescending and rude and quoting someone else unless it pertains to the actual problem at hand).
My question to you Morocco has been ‘are you constitutional or not?’ If not, then what’s next? Don’t send me a link to someone else’s thinking. And don’t insult me because you don’t agree with me.
If you come across something better than the constitution please let me know how you plan to implement it. (without forcing others) to see everything your way.
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Surely the joke that is the American Constitution was evident during the reign of George ‘the village idiot’ Bush.
Bush trashed the Constitution and did whatever he wanted and no one could stop him. He started wars on fallacious evidence, introduced torture, spied on American citizens, put people in cages, engaged in rendition, built concentration camps, heavied protesters using the police, ignored Katrina, told Sharon he was a man of peace, cosied up to the Saudi Kings, etc, etc.
And since George left the scene, what changes have been made to the flawed Constitution? None. Obama has all the same powers as Bush had and the Constitutional Conventions that are supposed to fix up Constitutional flaws have not been used.
Surely it’s time to stop worshiping the three centuries old Constitution and fantasies like the Beacon on the Hill and American Exceptionalism and move into the 21st Century. Surely it’s time to admit that America is stuffed and institute a new, non-imperial political system, one that isn’t run by the Robber Barons, the Politicians and the Militarists, etc.
If America doesn’t make serious changes then peace in this world will remain a dream!
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Kathy,
I will end this conversation with you right now. Anyone who says this to me is not interested in honest dialogue:
Administrative work in my prior days tells me that you don’t bring a problem to the table unless you can offer real solutions to take the place of the problem!
Obviously, you’re still an Administrator at heart and in mind. I have no respect for Administrators. Eichman was an Administrator and this System known as Civilization is full of Little Eichmans…..so full of solutions….empty solutions that keep going round and round and ultimately do nothing more than perpetuate the destruction.
We are obviously not even close to being on the same page, Kathy, let alone the same book. I will not be standing with you in the trenches, because as I am witnessing here, you have neither the capacity nor the potential to help bring about real change and evolution. You want to cling to antiquated and mythological notions of a non-existent glorified past….and somehow insanely restore it.
Good luck with all of that, Kathy, but count me out. Solutions, my ass!! Uphold your vaunted Constitution that requires 27 Amendments, and counting.
Any chance, or hope for real evolutionary change requires a mind-set, a paradigm shift, and you, obviously, don’t have it.
P.S. FYI, I am a former Administrator before “seeing the light.” I am a disavowed CPA with a Masters Degree in Accountancy. I worked for Ernst & Young…..in the same office under whose alleged watchful eye the HealthSouth scandal occurred. I’ve been there, I’ve lived it and witnessed it. I was at the very core of The Beast….so I, as much as anyone, am in a position to speak forthrightly about the malignancy of this system. Well-meaning people are daily crushed and devoured by this atrocious thing we call Civilization. Children are churned into homogeneous hamburger meat by a traditional education system and 24/7 entertainment industry and you won’t change your behavior or consider that there may be a host of “other ways” until you see “solutions.” You can take your demand for “solutions” and shove it where the sun don’t shine…which is just about everywhere and anywhere.
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Oh, and I will add, Kathy, that the “bring me no problems without solutions” attitude is the height of condescension. It stifles any constructive impetus for dialogue and inquiry and it enforces the hierarchical entrenchment that holds all of us firmly in place.
It goes hand in hand with the loathsome saying “it is what it is.” I cringe when anyone says that….because it tells me that the individual uttering it doesn’t want to discuss the nasty truth and entertain another mind set.
Or, better yet, it reminds me of what my mother and sister so smugly and fondly say. “That’s the way it is….we just have to live with it.”
BULLSHIT!!!!!
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David, sorry for starting an argument on your peaceful thread. It won’t happen again.
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Hell, if only the anger being expressed here could be directed towards the Robber Barons, the Militarists, the Corporations, the Religious Institutions, the Sheeple, etc.
Please remember the old saying: divided we fall!
P.S. Kathy, it is the right of everyone who contributes to DC to express their opinion and argue for it so don’t apologize for that. How else will we find the truth?
There is no one truth, only perhaps in totalitarian systems!
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Grace Reply:
March 19th, 2010 at 10:47 am
Sorry I pooped out. Am sick today. I had a horrible electrical torture emg this morning.
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kathy Reply:
March 19th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Hope you feel better soon Grace!
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I’ll tell you what. I’ll go and leave you all in peace. Have fun.
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David G Reply:
March 19th, 2010 at 8:14 am
It’s regrettable that this thread, which was about peace and beauty, ended up in hostility.
I truly hope that, when you set up your Montessori School, Morocco, the rigidity of your thinking and your unfortunate tendency towards nastiness will not be imposed upon innocent children.
Have fun and good luck (and thanks for your many valuable contributions!).
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Grace Reply:
March 21st, 2010 at 1:26 am
David and Kathy, thank you for the very kind words and thoughts. I am physically better, but there has been a convergence of events that have caused me extreme anger. Times like that I try to keep my mouth shut. I try to talk with the people who can affect change rather than take it out on someone. I am only going to say one last thing to Morocco Bama for the sake of contributing to the closure of this particular thread.
The comment about the Mercedes said more than you know. You exposed your own profound ignorance. The man I call my husband works himself to the point of being sick and broke to pay my medical bills and support our son. There is no Mercedes in our future. David’s comment reflects my own feelings towards you. Goodbye.
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David G Reply:
March 21st, 2010 at 8:07 am
Grace, Morocco, generally speaking, has all the right motives but he is too impatient, too quick to rush to judgement. Eventually, time will knock off his sharp edges, make him wiser, more tolerant.
Well, a bit of good news. It’s 6:11 pm here and this has been the most peaceful and gorgeous day that anyone could hope for. The sun was shining and it was about 70 degrees. Things are starting to green up and the flowers are starting to bloom! This is abundance much better than money!
Is it getting warm in Australia yet? I hope you get just the right amount of rain this year. (no more drought)
I have instructed this sunny weather to head straight to Australia. I don’t know how many days it will take to get there. So the next warm, sunny, gorgeous day you get is from Tennessee okay?
Thanks for all you do here David.
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Kathy, we Down Under, are heading towards winter but the warm Autumn weather is superb after the enervating heat and humidity of Summer.
Thanks for sending me a sunny, gorgeous day. Today is like that. Perhaps it got here faster than you think!
Grace, I hope your day improves. Being sick is no fun and your valuable involvement with this blog amazes me sometimes given your health problems.
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Grace, the things that make up our lives are fascinating and strange aren’t they? Extreme anger is hard on a body. I try to avoid it as best I can. But sometimes,,,I give in to the anger and then try to get over it as quickly as possible. I hope your anger has subsided so that you can relax into your healing mode. (My little Libra peace maker long lost cousin) or maybe my sister at heart…
I was reading your comments the other night and you were Grace-ful as usual. But I wanted to tell you that I really do get your compliance stand. I relate to it so much because of your health issues. Grace, is it a cancerous tumor on your spine or is it non-cancerous yet still inoperable because it’s ON your spine?
My family has very much to consider going forward with medical issues too. (Not easy to stand up and be Rambo when the body isn’t working at full speed is it?)
My younger sister is 44 years old. She has had over 100 surgeries so far. I think she’s up to 114 but not certain. Her very first round of baby vaccines left her paralyzed for a time. The paralysis wore off but she was deemed to be one of those people that could never take another vaccine as long as she lived!
When she was 13 she started having seizures. It was found that she had something called hydro-encephalitis. (Fluid building up on the brain) I’m not sure if I’m spelling it correctly or not. She would fall asleep and it was almost impossible to wake her. She had bad headaches and horrible eyesight! They placed the first shunt in her brain at age 13. The shunt has a pump on the brain end with a tube connected running down through her neck, through her chest, and dumping the fluid into her abdomenal area. Throughout the years she has had a total of 4 brain surgeries because pumps stop pumping, parts wear out, things get clogged, etc. But at the abdominal end scar tissue keeps building up and they have to go in and knock those spider web tissues loose from around her intestines.
Along the way, she was diagnosed with another condition. Neuro-fibromatosis,,, AND her knees were wearing out. She had numerous knee surgeries but they wouldn’t do knee replacements for her because they said she was too young. Finally last summer they replaced one knee and by now she has very much relief in that knee. It’s a hard surgery to go through with the physical therapy that follows but for her it has made a big difference in quality of life.
The neuro-fibromatosis is the thing that actually helped her start receiving her disability. In the beginning of her diagnosis there were several tumors found in her body. She has had oh so many of them removed by now and each time they appear they are on a nerve ending somewhere. They are very painful. Early imaging showed that she had a tumor on every nerve ending in her spine. The medical team prepared her for the fact that she would end up in a wheel chair before long because they couldn’t operate on the spine. They kept a close eye on the spinal tumors in the first two or three years to see if they were growing. But guess what Grace? When she went in for her imaging a couple of years back,,,,all the tumors on her spine were gone! They keep popping out on her fingers, hands, toes, feet, wrists. arms, legs etc…but they left her spine!!! Her specialist said he had never seen that happen before!! They always become painful and eventually have to be surgically removed but if she has had one removed recently below the waist and a new one pops up shortly afterward, they will give her a spinal nerve block or something that lasts a few months to block her pain so that she can have her surgeries spaced out to every 6 months or so.
Grace why do I bring this up? Because when we think revolutionary thoughts and yet choose our battles wisely …we are taking into consideration….EVERYONE IN OUR LIVES! My sister has to have her surgeries when everything else fails or else she can’t move for the excruciating pain! You have to have your treatments too. You have a precious 7 year old son to consider in everything you choose to do. I can say that in one way I have ‘one up’ on you because my children are grown. They are old enough to do what they want. They can leave the nest. Your baby is still so young and he needs you and your husband to raise him and give him love and balance.
I can say that you have “one up” on me because you live in a state that allows medical marijuana! (I could write a whole long chapter on what I think of our fake laws here in USA on marijuana) … but it is not the point of this post.
My daughter was diagnosed with ulcerative colitis disease when she was 11. By age 16 she had her colon removed. She had complications. There were so many treatments and procedures that it became difficult for me to work toward anything besides restoring her to health. My two older sons suffered because I was absent from them at times when they needed me because I was at a hospital trying to keep her alive!! She still has to have a corrective surgery once a year.
I developed an arthritis along the way. My ego has hissy fits over this!!! I have a hard time seeing myself as disabled in any way but if I don’t give myself a shot of Enbrel every two weeks, I can’t open a jar of pickles! If I can’t get the shot I have to take 1000 mg of motrin 4 times a day to walk upright! Motrin is hard on the stomach and the shot leads to a higher incidence of lymphoma cancer. So I feel somewhat screwed! I don’t know where to go from here.
When we stand up in non-compliance in a way that we think we can help, such as your taking to the streets to protest, and both of us writing letters to our congress critters, me at a semi-non compliance with the census, Morocco trashing the census completely…We do what we do because of WHAT we THINK we should do at this time in our lives.
I really do struggle with how my daughter would get her once a year surgery. I really do struggle with how my sister will get whatever surgeries or treatments she needs. And I wonder what good I can do if I can’t get my medications or if they fail to work for me.
When one contemplates taking down a beast system that is corrupt, one does consider how it will affect others. My daughter and I have been through so many medical trials and tribulations together that in this past year we have talked at length and contemplated death together. I don’t mean that as if we’ve contemplated suicide together. We have talked about the ramifications of a societal breakdown and what it would mean to our current healthcare.
I called ‘one up’ on you Grace because of my daughter’s age and that we are able to talk about it. I understand that you and your baby will not have that conversation the same way for a few years because he is so young. I would reserve all my strength, intuition, loving kindness to him and your husband (and reserve some for yourself too)…..as long as you can. The example that you live may very well be the changer that we need in today’s world.
My daughter has poked her head through the doorway three times now to ask me to come and watch a movie with her. I told her I was posting a comment to Grace Morgan in California and she rolled her eyes at me the first time and said “well tell her I said hello.” After that she just nagged me to come onnnnnnnn….
My non compliance issues that I thought long and hard about….
I had our TV disconnected so no more huge propaganda machine,,,however we do rent movies frequently. (But no more commercials) Why? Because I think if enough of us did it together we could send a message saying “we don’t buy, and we don’t want to hear your propaganda garbage any more. Some other Americans have done the same but not enough to make a difference yet.
I shut down my bank account because I don’t want to feed the beast that appears to be bankers and wall street. Some Americans have done this but not many at this point. Some other Americans have left their accounts open but leave a bare minimum in the account to cover monthly bills. (A sudden and total bank run would kill the robber barons but would leave people desperate to have access to their money to survive on)
I stopped paying income tax. It is said…..and of course I don’t know how to validate it….that over 67 million Americans have stopped paying the federal income tax. Well now I am one of them. I put my family on notice that I might have to go to jail before I die for violating something..some code or statute or policy. And that…even tho some may cringe when I say this….”that just is what it is”.
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Humans are so frail, and dear Grace and kathy, and all who suffer and read here, and of course, David, pay no heed to detractors, who do not have to walk in your shoes. Let your conscience be your guide. It is those without conscience, that we need to fear, and isolate from society.
With the system the way it is, it is too easy for sociopaths, and most horribly, psychopaths, to reach the top in politics. That is why militarism and zionism need to be combated by those of us in the human race, who have the means and wherewithal to do this, even if we will not see the fruits of our efforts during our lifetime. Thanks all above, for your contributions. Let feelings of peace and love help you along the way.
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kathy Reply:
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:55 am
Therese, thanks for all your wonderful comments and links too. I believe you’re right when you say the fruits of our efforts will not be seen in our lifetime. But what we’ve started is important and will be helpful for our next generations. Peace and love to you too!!
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Grace, my dear
Sorry for you should have to go through this.
Many thoughts, mostly anger has gone through my mind when I read this ,by MB reproaching of people here [he's very disappointed that it can't immediate be as he demands] who have reasonable motives not to comply with his (fierce) demands to behave defiant against the community/ the state in it’s effort to census it’s population.
From the outset of ‘MB’, my feeling has been that he knows exactly what he don’t want (of systems) the remaining question is, “will there be any possibilities (of isms) left” when MB has denounced what he don’t like. – as he has done here, like with e.g. Hugo Chavez, Ahmedinejad, and (my especially HERO) PCRoberts. {everyone has the/a right and thereof the possibility to change his mind – thanks GOD}
I think/am sure you have a great husband, Grace (either you think he is right or (more serious), wrong for you, I personnally don’t think it’s an issue to be discussed on the internet – at all) and you should know that I have the greatest admiration for the American natives al though I haven’t known a single one. The only way I think I know those people, is because we Dane have Greenland as part of our nation and as such have known many Greenlanders, who come to this land, whom I believe are of the same family (via the north Canada etc.) they are wonderful people.
Dear Kathy
To me you prove it, time and again, you are the, and ought to be the spinal column of a future America should this war-bewildered nation have a future in a world where peace and harmony can prevail.
Please forgive me, Kathy that I havn’t answered to your zodiac prediction. the reason is that I (like religion) don’t really believe in this. but when that’s said, I don’t deny/reject there is any mind traits comparisons between people in relation to days / times of birth etc.
I am happy to se, it seems you’re on your way to healthyness /cure / recovery , David.
may peace overpower you all
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ok – have to divide the thing!
Dear Grace
Sorry for you should have to go through this.
Many thoughts, mostly anger has gone through my mind when I read this ,by MB reproaching of people here [he's very disappointed that it can't immediate be as he demands] who have reasonable motives not to comply with his (fierce) demands to behave defiant against the community/ the state in it’s effort to census it’s population.
From the outset of ‘MB’, my feeling has been that he knows exactly what he don’t want (of systems) the remaining question is, “will there be any possibilities (of isms) left” when MB has denounced what he don’t like. – as he has done here, like with e.g. Hugo Chavez, Ahmedinejad, and (my especially HERO) PCRoberts. {everyone has the/a right and thereof the possibility to change his mind – thanks GOD}
I think/am sure you have a great husband, Grace (either you think he is right or (more serious), wrong for you, I personnally don’t think it’s an issue to be discussed on the internet – at all) and you should know that I have the greatest admiration for the American natives al though I haven’t known a single one. The only way I think I know those people, is because we Dane have Greenland as part of our nation and as such have known many Greenlanders, who come to this land, whom I believe are of the same family (via the north Canada etc.) they are wonderful people.
more to come…….
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Grace Reply:
March 23rd, 2010 at 3:31 am
My husband and I were married 10 years ago. I think it has taken us this long to finally really appreciate one another. John, he is a great husband and I am lucky! I am appropriately ashamed for questioning my marriage online. Actually, this past week has shown us how much we love and respect each other. It is the longest I have been with someone who still tells me he loves me. I don’t think I could let love in very well before. In fact during my anger, he pointed out how I was going around burning all of my bridges. He caught me and stopped me before I did real harm.
I feel bad for being less than enlightened. Especially when it came to brother Morocco Bama. I think he might be the type to burn bridges too.
Kathy, sister Morgan, you are very correct in that it is hard to fight when not feeling 100%. Sometimes I think I should not engage in the struggle if I don’t have the Ooompgh to follow through! BUT then, I have all these deep thoughts stuck in my head whith a need to process. David, of course you are not stuck with me, but if I felt any better you may have inspired me to start a blog too. I am not there yet. In the meantime I will work to keep on subject with less of some of my personal discourse. I can’t promise I won’t ever mention my life situations – because so often they are rich with meaning and ties in to the biger puzzle at large.
Kathy, you said something else that has weighed on me as well. “We have talked about the ramifications of a societal breakdown and what it would mean to our current healthcare.” I figured I would get myself to a hospital if society broke down. I would not survive if my medications ran out. It is existential sh-t! It freaked me out and I became claustrophobic when I first realized this. Back in my healthier days, I used to do things like learn how to sprout foods so that I could be totally self-sufficient in the case of a “Long Emergency.” This is a long way from that. That was also in the days (Hi, Therese!) when I thought pharmaceuticals were evil and they were trying to get society hooked so they could control the population. Now, here I am. Whadya know?! I have a benign hemangioma on my spine located next to my spinal cord and aorta. Back when I was gardening alot last year and then got sick and went on disability, in the beginning I was gardening all day- until I couldn’t bend anymore! Then, I went on a long walk and ended up in the Emergency Room in acute pain. They did an MRI and found the growth. If it ever grows to touch the spinal cord, I will be paralyzed. They will not attempt to remove it unless that happens. I was already on a life plan of needing medication to function after going to a chiropractor, my disc popping out of my neck and being bedridden for a year before and after the surgery. I have since had a series of 10 surgical injections in my skull. The last one literally turned me into a “numbskull!” Medication keeps me upright. I go into spasms and migraines daily. I am in my seventh year of this. My “normal” is nauseated and spasmy in my skull, neck and erector spinae.
For sure, having a young kid has kept me active and not in bed losing bone mass. Kathy, thank you for sharing the health tribulations of your sister. It makes me think that I can get my tumor to re-locate and exit my body – leaving me intact, of course! Please say “Hi” to your daughter. You have such a great family. You are like a spinal column of America. : ). I wish I knew some way to help your arthritis. My mother and grandmother suffered with it. I work to keep my weight down because every 5 lbs increases the pain (in general, for me). Eating dark green vegetables and Vitamin D are the only things I really know that might help Arthritis. Arthritis is shockingly debilitating. I wish you health and well feelings.
This site has shown me that there are enlightened people all over. There was a time that I thought most awareness existed in the coastal towns of America. I forget who recommended “Jericho.” I watched it and it was a great series. I know why they had to cancel it! It was showing us how to survive and have a revolution in the case of a societal breakdown. I know this sounds silly, but if there were that many cool people in Kansas, there must be cool people everywhere, we just are kept isolated in our red and blue zones. This site is like that for me.
Thanks. For the record, I am opening my mind to all the ways I may not comply.
Not in my name!
Cheers!
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Grace Reply:
March 23rd, 2010 at 4:33 am
One last thing. My spinal condition gives me the “feeling” of being stabbed in the back! In honor of anwering the question posed in this thread, Am I looking for peace? Yes. The search for peace has brought me face to face with a reality of having been metaphorically stabbed in the back by my own family. Lots of anger has arisen. I have my work cut out to unravel this and allow it to leave me.
What will be the exit point?
The Aorta is the largest artery in the body, originating from the left ventricle of the heart and extends down to the abdomen, where it branches off into two smaller arteries. The aorta distributes oxygenated blood to all parts of the body through the systemic circulation.
I am the type to believe that clues and solutions lie in the very problems themselves.
Thank you all.
Love and peace.
grace
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kathy Reply:
March 24th, 2010 at 5:01 am
Interesting information Grace! I have a book by Louise Hay called “You can heal your life.” She believes in positive affirmations to heal conditions that manifest in the body and mind. For instance when I looked up ‘tumors’ it says probable cause is ‘nursing old hurts and shocks; building remorse.’ The suggested affirmation to remedy this is ‘ I lovingly release the past and turn my attention to this new day. All is well.’
Arthritic fingers probable cause; ‘A desire to punish. Blame. Feeling victimized. Affirmation is: ‘I see with love and understanding. I hold all my experiences up to the light of love.’
Any way, it’s an interesting book and it reminded me of what you just stated that the clues and solutions can be found in the problems themselves.
I suggested Jericho a while back. I agree that they ended the series because it gave information about how to survive the end of the world as we know it. Hopefully there are cool people spread out across the USA and the rest of the world. Just taking this blog as an example that seems to be the truth. Where is Adina by the way? Last I remember she had her chili pepper plant stolen!!
Thanks for the tips on Vit D and dark green veggies. I use both sporadically. I need to get into a good habit and stick to it! peace and love to all…..
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Grace Reply:
March 25th, 2010 at 5:23 am
Louise Hay has some wonderful advice. For many years, I worked as a care assistant to a quadraplegic woman and her family. She had explored every avenue of healing. That and her family owned a very successful organic health food store. I learned alot about healing during that time. The advice regarding “remorse” rang a bell! I have been overcome with remorse this week. In fact I wrote a long letter to my doctor and the unspoken theme was.. Remorse…
‘ I lovingly release the past and turn my attention to this new day. All is well.’
Thanks. : )
Isn’t that funny that you were the one to recommend Jericho, when these last weeks we have been talking, I was watching the show and thinking I need to go back to old posts to see who advised it!
Hey, because of my husband, we get to be family. No matter what, you are a kindred heart.
Tell your sister Hi, too. She has given me some kind of new thought regarding my situation. That is rare these days. Thanks for that.
Ok, you all, I am out for today. It is a beautiful spring day here. Filled with blossoming trees.
more comes….
Dear Kathy
To me you prove it, time and again, you are the, and ought to be the spinal column of a future America should this war-bewildered nation have a future in a world where peace and harmony can prevail.
Please forgive me, Kathy that I havn’t answered to your zodiac prediction. the reason is that I (like religion) don’t really believe in this. but when that’s said, I don’t deny/reject there is any mind traits comparisons between people in relation to days / times of birth etc.
I am happy to se, it seems you’re on your way to healthyness /cure / recovery , David.
may peace overpower you all
e
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kathy Reply:
March 22nd, 2010 at 5:13 am
Hi John,
Is your weather getting a bit warmer yet? I hope so. Thanks for saying that I am like a spinal column to you. I laughed a little when I thought of it. I laughed because the spinal column is called the backbone too. And many people say that the people in the USA need to grow a backbone and stand up to the crooked government. If enough of us here can get the backbone together, maybe I can be one small part of it? Then we can clear away the crooks and lay the foundation for peace and harmony to prevail.
That’s okay about the zodiac John. It’s entertaining to read sometimes but I’m not a student of the zodiac/astrology.
Take care ….love and peace to you!
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Backbone ! – yes, of course – me stupid
Perhaps ‘spinal column’ is used more in healthcare/medical matters/context. ?
“Is your weather getting a bit warmer yet?”
Yes Kathy – at loonnngg last…
It has been the most harsh vinter we’ve had for decades. As I remember it, we have to go (quite?) back to the nineteen-sixteen/seventies to find something alike this (2010) vinter.
Thanks God, in that respect, that nothing in life is forever. In the next week we are promised a stunning FIFTEEN degrees celsius! (on the +++ side) = ( 59° Fahrenheit).
In my view this is the most wonderful season of the year and I try to enjoy every minut of it.
peace and love to you too.
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kathy Reply:
March 23rd, 2010 at 9:47 am
John, you have never been stupid and never will be. I love that you have learned English and I marvel at the way you say things. It makes me wonder how I would write or say things if I was trying to learn a whole new language.
It must be difficult when a word such as backbone does mean the big boney parts of the spinal column, and yet the word is used unofficially as a term to perhaps represent courage or bravery.
I think spinal column is more of a medical term. It includes not just the bone structure, but many intricate parts (nerves) running through with padding between the boney areas that I don’t know how to describe. If one of those tiny parts gets out of line the whole body can feel pain!
I don’t think we have an unofficial term for spinal column here but if I could invent one myself I would see it (not as bravery or courage) but as representing the thing we would like to become. Where we would all evolve past the need for backbone and grow into a system where all the intricate little parts that make up the whole are important. Where all parts need to work together in unison to uphold the body in it’s most glorious fashion. The body in this case would be the human race. If we could evolve to a better human race we would no longer harm our planet and other species.
I didn’t laugh at your comment because I thought you were stupid. I laughed because you made me think differently and it made me happy. So thank you for making me happy!
John, I don’t think I’m a backbone yet. I am not so brave because I still have many fears about what’s ahead for me, my family, neighbors, countrymen, human race. But if you see me as a brave backbone I am flattered! I am also flattered if you could see me as a tiny little part of the intricate (evolved perhaps spiritual) part of the spinal column …(the unofficial definition that I invented). ha! ….Someone else probably already invented my view and I just don’t know it yet!
Thank you John, you are a sweet heart!!!! Enjoy your warm weather! Funny how after a particularly cruel weather event we appreciate the good that follows even more….
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Kathy, backbone is what the ‘sheeple’ need if they are going to right injustices and wrest back control of their world from the Robber Barons.
Keep up your English, John. You’re doing well!
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Are you lookin’ for troubles ….? [wasn't it Elvis P. who sang so?]
Just kidding
I am not at all in any way a chauvinist but I am glad that you ‘stay ed by your man’ Grace.
Please understand, my dear (as you are to me) that I do not really blame you for the exchange of words between you and MB about your husband. I see it more as you (as allways) in your complete honesty and willingness to act (for a better world) against a ‘suppressing totalitarian-ISM’ was shamefully exploited by MB when he urged you to submit to his, what he thought, was only a reasonable demand.
I think this event depict very well how difficulties soon will catch up with and exceed the advantage in the new (after overthrowing the old system) more or less (commie) society, where even honest efforts are made in trying to live together as equals.
Sooner or later it’ll be shattered by those who consider themself more important/ equal than others, and as such is fast moved into totalitarian-ISM.
No – I don’t think that ‘overthrow’ is the answer. An overthrow is very much equal to war, which again is equal to ANARCHY = (people are left to their own fate) which are only to the advantage of the rich and healthy.
The system have to be change over time from within by means of (call it propaganda, if you will, dependent on how you see it. or) information.
Again, here, please allow me to strike a blow for my preferred, and to my infinite comfort for me as a justice seeking / thirsting citizen in the war-lecherous country and NATO member, Denmark, where it’s public radio (news) is worse than BULL-SHIT. – especially when it comes to the Palestine / Israel story , if not telling sheer lies then completely omissions from the news when it’s about Palestinians killed (in cold blod) by the Israelis/zionists.
[ to the contrary, it was TOP-NEWS when a rochet fired/launched from Gaza killed a foreigner i Israel recently].
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Thank you so much Kathy, you are a sweet heart to me as well. I love reading down-to-earth stories from you and all other, in your caring efforts and worries for, by man the ill-treated earth, as well as from Grace, Therese, Jeannie, Kate, and ! Adina – yeah Adina? – where are you?.
Equality is a good thing but, for me there will and shall allways be be remembered, the little difference between man and women. [ hurrah for that]. or life would very soon become to boring.
In a way you has becomes a surrogate for a woman in my (as a penis toting) life.
No – It wasn’t me who invented this (label) – I would never have dared write so, my self. – without have learned form David.
Love and peace to all
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Grace Reply:
March 24th, 2010 at 2:47 am
Agent Provocateur. That was what MB reminded me of, when I had time to reflect. there was no patient thoughtfulness, just an impatient, hasty command to act. Not considering every possible ramification – which is more my style.
John, you are very correct in your assertion that Anarchy only benefits the healthy and wealthy. With the ways and the means.
Totalitarianism: the political concept that the citizen should be totally subject to an absolute (state) authority.
Funny, That is what trying to have a conversation with MB, felt like.
Thank you all. I agree, Adina, where are you?
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Grace Reply:
March 24th, 2010 at 3:14 am
Agent pro·vo·ca·teur
literally, provoking agent
one employed to associate with suspected persons and by pretending sympathy with their aims to incite them to some incriminating action
Things that make you go hmm.
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Sorry – I missed it “PressTV”
“Again, here, please allow me to strike a blow for my preferred , and to my infinite comfort for me as a justice seeking / thirsting citizen NEWS / Information channel – PRESSTV
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You can easily be on track on something Grace (“employed to associate with suspected persons” ) I noticed he didn’t think the zionists (or was it jews) were to blame for why America was involved in so many wars in the middle-east. (I do not remember his exactly choose of wordings) .
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Friends, could I ask you for your support for, or feedback on, some of the changes I’m trying to bring about on Dangerous Creation and Seeking Utopia?
P.S. On the appropriate posts of course. Thanks.
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David, I will post it here too….the comments feedback isn’t working properly today. I posted it on one of your other threads that is more recent. I don’t know if Grace and John are getting this in their email inboxes. I didn’t. I just stopped over and found new comments on the sideline.
Seeking Utopia is a great blog! I’m all about Serenity….sometimes…. Thanks David
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