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		<title>By: David G</title>
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		<dc:creator>David G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 06:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Corporate States of America! The mind boggles. 

Surely the environment of the boardroom is a cesspit of naked greed,one  where a cabal of conscienceless gluttons whose eyes are too big for their stomachs meet and plot and plan who they can rip off.

They represent a new low point in human evolution!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Corporate States of America! The mind boggles. </p>
<p>Surely the environment of the boardroom is a cesspit of naked greed,one  where a cabal of conscienceless gluttons whose eyes are too big for their stomachs meet and plot and plan who they can rip off.</p>
<p>They represent a new low point in human evolution!</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.dangerouscreation.com/2009/12/when-did-ww3-start-long-ago/comment-page-1/#comment-14773</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello David -
 Thanks for the reply. I have to agree with you about 9/11. I am still not convinced that the &quot;official&quot; story from the 9/11 Commission is correct, particularly with respect to World Trade Center 7. That has always seemed like the Achilles Heel of the whole thing. IF WTC7 came down due to something other than damage from WTC 1 and 2 then the whole thing falls apart. It is also tragic how Americans have moved on and have largely forgotten about 9/11. We seem more satisfied with a memorial on the site than finding out the truth. At the very least there are many contradictions that justify the re-opening of an independent commission. I doubt that will ever happen. We definitely seem to be in decline, not only because of a class of criminal oligarchs but also because there is so little real citizenship in our society. One last thing for now - I am waiting for January 12, 2010. On or about that day we are expected to hear the ruling by the Supreme Court concerning the rescinding of political campaign contribution limits by corporations. They are expected to rule in favor of eliminating the limit. To me, that would be one of the final nails in the coffin of American democracy. We seem to be living through a second Civil War except that this time the enemy isn&#039;t the Confederate States of America but the would be Corporate States of America. That would be a country I am not interested in living in.

Regards,
Bruce</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello David -<br />
 Thanks for the reply. I have to agree with you about 9/11. I am still not convinced that the &#8220;official&#8221; story from the 9/11 Commission is correct, particularly with respect to World Trade Center 7. That has always seemed like the Achilles Heel of the whole thing. IF WTC7 came down due to something other than damage from WTC 1 and 2 then the whole thing falls apart. It is also tragic how Americans have moved on and have largely forgotten about 9/11. We seem more satisfied with a memorial on the site than finding out the truth. At the very least there are many contradictions that justify the re-opening of an independent commission. I doubt that will ever happen. We definitely seem to be in decline, not only because of a class of criminal oligarchs but also because there is so little real citizenship in our society. One last thing for now &#8211; I am waiting for January 12, 2010. On or about that day we are expected to hear the ruling by the Supreme Court concerning the rescinding of political campaign contribution limits by corporations. They are expected to rule in favor of eliminating the limit. To me, that would be one of the final nails in the coffin of American democracy. We seem to be living through a second Civil War except that this time the enemy isn&#8217;t the Confederate States of America but the would be Corporate States of America. That would be a country I am not interested in living in.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Bruce</p>
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		<title>By: David G</title>
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		<dc:creator>David G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wagelaborer, what America will do if confronted with its demise is an interesting question. I think if the average American could be made to see the truth about themselves and their country&#039;s vile leadership,  I think it would exit with a whimper!

Grace, Obama certainly did exploit hope. When I see him ordering cruise missile strikes and troop surges, etc, I am sickened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wagelaborer, what America will do if confronted with its demise is an interesting question. I think if the average American could be made to see the truth about themselves and their country&#8217;s vile leadership,  I think it would exit with a whimper!</p>
<p>Grace, Obama certainly did exploit hope. When I see him ordering cruise missile strikes and troop surges, etc, I am sickened.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Therese -
 I can also offer up my own source. Please got to Google and type in Mythbusters  Moon Hoax. This is a couple of men who specialize in debunking many of the urban legends and other beliefs that people hold. They go after the claim about the divergent shadows on the Moon and others. By the way, did any of the supporters of the Moon hoax stuff bother to ask themselves about Apollo 13? If all the astronauts did was fly around in orbit and then come home why did they stage the explosion of the service module and the resulting efforts to bring the crew home? For NASA to have faked that would have only lessened their credibility about maintaining a viable space program AND the funding necessary to pay for it.

Bruce</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Therese -<br />
 I can also offer up my own source. Please got to Google and type in Mythbusters  Moon Hoax. This is a couple of men who specialize in debunking many of the urban legends and other beliefs that people hold. They go after the claim about the divergent shadows on the Moon and others. By the way, did any of the supporters of the Moon hoax stuff bother to ask themselves about Apollo 13? If all the astronauts did was fly around in orbit and then come home why did they stage the explosion of the service module and the resulting efforts to bring the crew home? For NASA to have faked that would have only lessened their credibility about maintaining a viable space program AND the funding necessary to pay for it.</p>
<p>Bruce</p>
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		<title>By: Grace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Will it go peacefully, like Great Britain?

Or will it go out flailing like a wounded giant, killing as many as possible as it goes down?

I don’t have a good feeling about this.&quot;

..me neither..

But I am programmed to HOPE.  Damn that Obama for exploiting that!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Will it go peacefully, like Great Britain?</p>
<p>Or will it go out flailing like a wounded giant, killing as many as possible as it goes down?</p>
<p>I don’t have a good feeling about this.&#8221;</p>
<p>..me neither..</p>
<p>But I am programmed to HOPE.  Damn that Obama for exploiting that!!</p>
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		<title>By: wagelaborer</title>
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		<dc:creator>wagelaborer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think you&#039;ve lost your marbles, David.  The US has been bent on world domination since WWll.  I disagree that it was in response to the USSR, though.   

After WWll, when the Russians had had enough of war, and overthrew the czar, 14 countries, including the US, invaded the new soviet union. It obviously was in no condition to invade anyone. They didn&#039;t want the example of worker&#039;s control to spread.   

The FBI was used to attack leftists in the US, and many were deported or arrested.

There was a brief time in the 40s, when the US and the USSR were allies, when the propaganda slowed,but right after the war, it started again, and the US set up a secret network of ex-nazis and other fascists, called the stay behind network, to attack the USSR and also to attack leftists in the various countries.  The US dropped napalm on Greece shortly after the war to stop a communist victory.  Of course the main fascist resistors in Europe were communists.  It was like a horror movie, when the heroine faces the villain and the sheriff comes and turns out to be in cahoots with the villain.  The US backed the fascists against the communists and supported purges and massacres.

Of course the USSR was in no position to attack the US.  It lost 20 million people to the German invasion.  They were as devastated as the rest of Europe.  

Only the US came out of WWll in good shape.  It used that advantage to consolidate its attempt at world domination, as you pointed out in your blog.

It looks like it&#039;s time for the empire to collapse.  Will it go peacefully, like Great Britain?

Or will it go out flailing like a wounded giant, killing as many as possible as it goes down?

I don&#039;t have a good feeling about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;ve lost your marbles, David.  The US has been bent on world domination since WWll.  I disagree that it was in response to the USSR, though.   </p>
<p>After WWll, when the Russians had had enough of war, and overthrew the czar, 14 countries, including the US, invaded the new soviet union. It obviously was in no condition to invade anyone. They didn&#8217;t want the example of worker&#8217;s control to spread.   </p>
<p>The FBI was used to attack leftists in the US, and many were deported or arrested.</p>
<p>There was a brief time in the 40s, when the US and the USSR were allies, when the propaganda slowed,but right after the war, it started again, and the US set up a secret network of ex-nazis and other fascists, called the stay behind network, to attack the USSR and also to attack leftists in the various countries.  The US dropped napalm on Greece shortly after the war to stop a communist victory.  Of course the main fascist resistors in Europe were communists.  It was like a horror movie, when the heroine faces the villain and the sheriff comes and turns out to be in cahoots with the villain.  The US backed the fascists against the communists and supported purges and massacres.</p>
<p>Of course the USSR was in no position to attack the US.  It lost 20 million people to the German invasion.  They were as devastated as the rest of Europe.  </p>
<p>Only the US came out of WWll in good shape.  It used that advantage to consolidate its attempt at world domination, as you pointed out in your blog.</p>
<p>It looks like it&#8217;s time for the empire to collapse.  Will it go peacefully, like Great Britain?</p>
<p>Or will it go out flailing like a wounded giant, killing as many as possible as it goes down?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a good feeling about this.</p>
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		<title>By: David G</title>
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		<dc:creator>David G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Lucy, it&#039;s great to get a comment from you. I recommended a little way back that people here visit your blog and support you in your efforts to open some eyes, get some brains working again.

Take care!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Lucy, it&#8217;s great to get a comment from you. I recommended a little way back that people here visit your blog and support you in your efforts to open some eyes, get some brains working again.</p>
<p>Take care!</p>
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		<title>By: Lucyp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucyp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It ate my first comment.

The graphic showing American bases is qute eye opening. I do think that America&#039;a time as sole Superpower is faltering. I can&#039;t see how students looking back at how America conducted itself during its dominace will be able to say it was a success. It created its own problems with Afghanistan, Al Queada and Iraq and all came back to haunt it, and us, years later. 
That said, whether China or a newly created European state as top dog will do any better is debatable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It ate my first comment.</p>
<p>The graphic showing American bases is qute eye opening. I do think that America&#8217;a time as sole Superpower is faltering. I can&#8217;t see how students looking back at how America conducted itself during its dominace will be able to say it was a success. It created its own problems with Afghanistan, Al Queada and Iraq and all came back to haunt it, and us, years later.<br />
That said, whether China or a newly created European state as top dog will do any better is debatable.</p>
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		<title>By: David G</title>
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		<dc:creator>David G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 21:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruce, thanks for your well supported reply above. 

It&#039;s a shame that we live in a world where the word of any Government can&#039;t be trusted anymore. Look at WMDs. Even with 9/11 there is a suggestion that 2+2 might not be 4.

You may be right of course. But remember, false flag operations are popular and politicians are not the most honest of people and will engage in deceptions at the drop of a hat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce, thanks for your well supported reply above. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a shame that we live in a world where the word of any Government can&#8217;t be trusted anymore. Look at WMDs. Even with 9/11 there is a suggestion that 2+2 might not be 4.</p>
<p>You may be right of course. But remember, false flag operations are popular and politicians are not the most honest of people and will engage in deceptions at the drop of a hat.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello David -
 I respectfully disagree. My father worked as an engineer at the Cape back in the 60s and I came to know the space program really well. I&#039;m aware of the fact that we were trying to beat the Russians to the Moon but I also know that they were nowhere near to that goal. After the Soviet Union fell we were allowed access to some of the vehicles that were being developed for the Russian Moon missions and they were something that was more fitting for PR than an actual space mission. Very crude. If I have been a cosmonaut I would have refused to go in something so primitive. Also, the Russian launch vehicle had a bad reputation for blowing up on the pad. There was a saying throughout much of the 60s with respect to the Russian space program &quot;They got there first, but we got there better.&quot; By the end of the decade it was clear to any objective observer that the Russians were &quot;losing&quot; the Space Race and would have to confine their efforts to manned orbital missions (Mir, etc.) and unmanned space probes in the Solar System. Even their version of the space shuttle was a near copy of ours that only flew once by remote control (no crew) and was then shelved. 
  I know about the Hollywood representation (there was a movie that used this scenario) and there are articles on the internet about this supposed hoax. I have to say that I will look at what you suggested but I doubt that I will find anything of real substance. If you say that the photos and videos from the Moon were taken on a set somewhere I would have to say that there is one bit of evidence that springs to mind. In one of the lunar missions the astronauts placed a mirror array on the surface that is still used to determine the distance to the Moon using lasers beamed from Earth. That mirror had to placed there by hand. I would also ask how the astronauts were made to look like they were hopping along in 1/6 G with dust very slowly settling around them if they were in the 1 G of Earth on a set. 
 As to why we didn&#039;t go back that is the result of the program being dismantled. Even the Saturn V was scuttled. We had accomplished the goal that Kennedy started and the country went on to other matters like being dragged down into the quagmire of Vietnam, a foreign policy and humanitarian disaster that we are emulating today in the Middle East. I should point out that NASA is developing a new, larger version of the Apollo command module and a new booster. There are Moon missions being planned and plans to go to Mars as well. I think you should consider that the conjunction of scientists, engineers and technicians that was assembled to create the original manned program was an extraordinary achievement. They really did build vehicles that got us to the Moon and resulted in 12 men walking on it&#039;s surface. I am quite sure about that.

Regards,
Bruce Bennett</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello David -<br />
 I respectfully disagree. My father worked as an engineer at the Cape back in the 60s and I came to know the space program really well. I&#8217;m aware of the fact that we were trying to beat the Russians to the Moon but I also know that they were nowhere near to that goal. After the Soviet Union fell we were allowed access to some of the vehicles that were being developed for the Russian Moon missions and they were something that was more fitting for PR than an actual space mission. Very crude. If I have been a cosmonaut I would have refused to go in something so primitive. Also, the Russian launch vehicle had a bad reputation for blowing up on the pad. There was a saying throughout much of the 60s with respect to the Russian space program &#8220;They got there first, but we got there better.&#8221; By the end of the decade it was clear to any objective observer that the Russians were &#8220;losing&#8221; the Space Race and would have to confine their efforts to manned orbital missions (Mir, etc.) and unmanned space probes in the Solar System. Even their version of the space shuttle was a near copy of ours that only flew once by remote control (no crew) and was then shelved.<br />
  I know about the Hollywood representation (there was a movie that used this scenario) and there are articles on the internet about this supposed hoax. I have to say that I will look at what you suggested but I doubt that I will find anything of real substance. If you say that the photos and videos from the Moon were taken on a set somewhere I would have to say that there is one bit of evidence that springs to mind. In one of the lunar missions the astronauts placed a mirror array on the surface that is still used to determine the distance to the Moon using lasers beamed from Earth. That mirror had to placed there by hand. I would also ask how the astronauts were made to look like they were hopping along in 1/6 G with dust very slowly settling around them if they were in the 1 G of Earth on a set.<br />
 As to why we didn&#8217;t go back that is the result of the program being dismantled. Even the Saturn V was scuttled. We had accomplished the goal that Kennedy started and the country went on to other matters like being dragged down into the quagmire of Vietnam, a foreign policy and humanitarian disaster that we are emulating today in the Middle East. I should point out that NASA is developing a new, larger version of the Apollo command module and a new booster. There are Moon missions being planned and plans to go to Mars as well. I think you should consider that the conjunction of scientists, engineers and technicians that was assembled to create the original manned program was an extraordinary achievement. They really did build vehicles that got us to the Moon and resulted in 12 men walking on it&#8217;s surface. I am quite sure about that.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Bruce Bennett</p>
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