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		<title>By: JohnLJ</title>
		<link>http://www.dangerouscreation.com/2009/12/copenhagen-where-hope-and-reality-collide/comment-page-1/#comment-14344</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnLJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dear Adina
I have experienced the same -  try to cut the text (if  very long)
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The &#039;good&#039; news

Thanks heaven,,, [GOD]
Snow is back, in Copenhagen. We may now cancel the whole issue of global warming as a mistake.

Ship without captain:

From the bridge(of command) in Copenhagen the mates are  feverishly trying to circumcastle the cargo in order NOT to capzise. will it happen. - probably not ?   the excitment is indeed increasing.

From the real world:
I am very sorry for all the invironmentalist [those who care] first and foremost with the plight of the earth on their minds The way they have been treated in Denmark is disgusting, and a disgrace to a degree that only suits with a facist-goverment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear Adina<br />
I have experienced the same &#8211;  try to cut the text (if  very long)<br />
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<p>The &#8216;good&#8217; news</p>
<p>Thanks heaven,,, [GOD]<br />
Snow is back, in Copenhagen. We may now cancel the whole issue of global warming as a mistake.</p>
<p>Ship without captain:</p>
<p>From the bridge(of command) in Copenhagen the mates are  feverishly trying to circumcastle the cargo in order NOT to capzise. will it happen. &#8211; probably not ?   the excitment is indeed increasing.</p>
<p>From the real world:<br />
I am very sorry for all the invironmentalist [those who care] first and foremost with the plight of the earth on their minds The way they have been treated in Denmark is disgusting, and a disgrace to a degree that only suits with a facist-goverment.</p>
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		<title>By: Adina</title>
		<link>http://www.dangerouscreation.com/2009/12/copenhagen-where-hope-and-reality-collide/comment-page-1/#comment-14335</link>
		<dc:creator>Adina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 07:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tried to post 7 times but my posts won t show up.. i don t know why. i ll try again couple of times more.</description>
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		<title>By: kathy</title>
		<link>http://www.dangerouscreation.com/2009/12/copenhagen-where-hope-and-reality-collide/comment-page-1/#comment-14330</link>
		<dc:creator>kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 03:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s the frightening part David. Sheeple with guns and no good plan can&#039;t be very good revolutionaries! I&#039;ve heard that revolutions need plans and organization. Civil war however..(maybe I should call it civil unrest) would be different. 

Angry people who have lost their homes, jobs, have not seen it coming so they have run out of food and water, so angry that they will attack each other. Poor will want to kill the rich, democrats will want to kill republicans, White supremecy groups will want to kill the illegal aliens, Some fringe Christian groups will want to kill gay people and those who believe that abortions are okay. Many sheeple will kill each other over these several divisive ideas that I&#039;ve mentioned and many others.  Society will break down. Our warmongering leaders are planning for it. I don&#039;t know if there are enough &#039;awake&#039; people to pull off a second American revolution or not. Makes my brain hurt to think about it!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the frightening part David. Sheeple with guns and no good plan can&#8217;t be very good revolutionaries! I&#8217;ve heard that revolutions need plans and organization. Civil war however..(maybe I should call it civil unrest) would be different. </p>
<p>Angry people who have lost their homes, jobs, have not seen it coming so they have run out of food and water, so angry that they will attack each other. Poor will want to kill the rich, democrats will want to kill republicans, White supremecy groups will want to kill the illegal aliens, Some fringe Christian groups will want to kill gay people and those who believe that abortions are okay. Many sheeple will kill each other over these several divisive ideas that I&#8217;ve mentioned and many others.  Society will break down. Our warmongering leaders are planning for it. I don&#8217;t know if there are enough &#8216;awake&#8217; people to pull off a second American revolution or not. Makes my brain hurt to think about it!!</p>
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		<title>By: David G</title>
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		<dc:creator>David G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 01:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathy, negative American rhetoric about Iran is relentless and is increasing. I haven&#039;t seen any action by Australian Armed Forces but then I live a long way from any bases, a long way from anywhere really. 

Several commenters on this site have mentioned increased activity in the States from helicopters and bombers. Who would no what your warmongering leaders are up to?

You mention a civil war in America. Sheeple don&#039;t make very good revolutionaries, do they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathy, negative American rhetoric about Iran is relentless and is increasing. I haven&#8217;t seen any action by Australian Armed Forces but then I live a long way from any bases, a long way from anywhere really. </p>
<p>Several commenters on this site have mentioned increased activity in the States from helicopters and bombers. Who would no what your warmongering leaders are up to?</p>
<p>You mention a civil war in America. Sheeple don&#8217;t make very good revolutionaries, do they?</p>
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		<title>By: kathy</title>
		<link>http://www.dangerouscreation.com/2009/12/copenhagen-where-hope-and-reality-collide/comment-page-1/#comment-14321</link>
		<dc:creator>kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 00:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there any country on earth that isn&#039;t already a police state? When they had the G-20 meeting in Pittsburg a couple of months ago there were about 300 people who went out to protest and they didn&#039;t show much on tv but one of the web sites said they had about 1200 security forces to back those 300 people off. They even brought out an LRAD sound weapon to disperse the crowd. They had helicopters flying overhead and gun ships in the harbor near by. These greedy world leaders are really taking drastic measures now to hold off the crowds. Seems everyone is beyond anger about one issue or another. 

David I haven&#039;t seen as many articles about Iran lately. I&#039;ve seen several about Pakistan now that our military is flying more drones in to hit Taliban targets! Pakistan has become the latest country that we haven&#039;t declared war on and yet we are bombing their land and their people!  ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!  Have you guys been getting some more recent news about Iran? 

The army has been more active here in my area. The helicopters that I hear throughout the day and into the night are from Ft Campbell Army base. It seems that all of the military bases in our country have been doing more drills on the homeland this year. The pentagon had requested 400,000 of our own troops to be stationed here throughout America in case of a civil war this year. They have been doing military exercises outside of their base area. They have come out into some towns to practice going door to door as a search and seizure exercise. They say they are coordinating with the department of homeland security, FEMA and the local law enforcement agencies in case of a national emergency.  Are any of you noticing any irregular military activity in your area?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any country on earth that isn&#8217;t already a police state? When they had the G-20 meeting in Pittsburg a couple of months ago there were about 300 people who went out to protest and they didn&#8217;t show much on tv but one of the web sites said they had about 1200 security forces to back those 300 people off. They even brought out an LRAD sound weapon to disperse the crowd. They had helicopters flying overhead and gun ships in the harbor near by. These greedy world leaders are really taking drastic measures now to hold off the crowds. Seems everyone is beyond anger about one issue or another. </p>
<p>David I haven&#8217;t seen as many articles about Iran lately. I&#8217;ve seen several about Pakistan now that our military is flying more drones in to hit Taliban targets! Pakistan has become the latest country that we haven&#8217;t declared war on and yet we are bombing their land and their people!  ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!  Have you guys been getting some more recent news about Iran? </p>
<p>The army has been more active here in my area. The helicopters that I hear throughout the day and into the night are from Ft Campbell Army base. It seems that all of the military bases in our country have been doing more drills on the homeland this year. The pentagon had requested 400,000 of our own troops to be stationed here throughout America in case of a civil war this year. They have been doing military exercises outside of their base area. They have come out into some towns to practice going door to door as a search and seizure exercise. They say they are coordinating with the department of homeland security, FEMA and the local law enforcement agencies in case of a national emergency.  Are any of you noticing any irregular military activity in your area?</p>
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		<title>By: David G</title>
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		<dc:creator>David G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear friends, the Copenhagen Conference is fizzling. The protesters, many of them, are in jail. The world leaders, fearful of losing votes, procrastinate and argue about trifles.

The forces of mindless greed are winning and the planet is losing. Meanwhile there are worrying reports of more than usual activity by the U.S. air force.

Is Iran firmly in the bomb sites?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear friends, the Copenhagen Conference is fizzling. The protesters, many of them, are in jail. The world leaders, fearful of losing votes, procrastinate and argue about trifles.</p>
<p>The forces of mindless greed are winning and the planet is losing. Meanwhile there are worrying reports of more than usual activity by the U.S. air force.</p>
<p>Is Iran firmly in the bomb sites?</p>
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		<title>By: Therese</title>
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		<dc:creator>Therese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 13:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Youth in Nashville and Chicago marched and pamphleted to attempt to alert the public about the truths about climate change (dolphins and turtles are freezing off of Maine due to record cold air and Canada is experiencing record cold air), because they do not want to be controlled by a global government imposition of carbon taxes and military control.  You can view them at www.wearechange.org.
The lame mass media will not show you them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Youth in Nashville and Chicago marched and pamphleted to attempt to alert the public about the truths about climate change (dolphins and turtles are freezing off of Maine due to record cold air and Canada is experiencing record cold air), because they do not want to be controlled by a global government imposition of carbon taxes and military control.  You can view them at <a href="http://www.wearechange.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.wearechange.org</a>.<br />
The lame mass media will not show you them.</p>
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		<title>By: kathy</title>
		<link>http://www.dangerouscreation.com/2009/12/copenhagen-where-hope-and-reality-collide/comment-page-1/#comment-14198</link>
		<dc:creator>kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 02:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Adina, your link is a good one. I have listened to Mr. Ball a couple of other times. I don&#039;t think he is a &quot;bought off&quot; scientist. 

I compared the climate change to a war in one of my earlier posts because the powers that be say we sheeple always have to be distracted by war or rumors of war to keep us in line. They want a one world government and if that happens there supposedly can be no more wars amongst nations. So they have to give us this big climate change war to fight together. 

It&#039;s also almost like a new religious movement. It&#039;s as if these globalist carbon tax gods have stolen the movement from real environmentalists (for profit) and if we don&#039;t believe everything they say, if we don&#039;t OBEY them....then the climate devil will take us to climate hell where we will burn forever and ever!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Adina, your link is a good one. I have listened to Mr. Ball a couple of other times. I don&#8217;t think he is a &#8220;bought off&#8221; scientist. </p>
<p>I compared the climate change to a war in one of my earlier posts because the powers that be say we sheeple always have to be distracted by war or rumors of war to keep us in line. They want a one world government and if that happens there supposedly can be no more wars amongst nations. So they have to give us this big climate change war to fight together. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s also almost like a new religious movement. It&#8217;s as if these globalist carbon tax gods have stolen the movement from real environmentalists (for profit) and if we don&#8217;t believe everything they say, if we don&#8217;t OBEY them&#8230;.then the climate devil will take us to climate hell where we will burn forever and ever!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Adina</title>
		<link>http://www.dangerouscreation.com/2009/12/copenhagen-where-hope-and-reality-collide/comment-page-1/#comment-14195</link>
		<dc:creator>Adina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 02:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coincidentally.. I just found out this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dt2arDi7K8

How the climate change gang works..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coincidentally.. I just found out this :</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dt2arDi7K8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dt2arDi7K8</a></p>
<p>How the climate change gang works..</p>
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		<title>By: Adina</title>
		<link>http://www.dangerouscreation.com/2009/12/copenhagen-where-hope-and-reality-collide/comment-page-1/#comment-14190</link>
		<dc:creator>Adina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 01:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear John, you know I consider you smart, and kind. Not stupid at all. 
But be careful what news you believe in.
The people who talk about saving the planet are the people who had signals about what is going to happen long time ago. they had and hold technologies (e.g. washing machine wwithout detergent) which they keep and do not mass produce. They have alternative solutions to the OIL but they do not release it. They are the ones propagating the HOAX of saving EARTH by TAXES when EARTH can be CHANEGD ONLY BY CHANGING THE ECONOMIC MODEL!!!!!!!!!! 
Consuming and TAXING is not a solution!!!!!!!!!! 
Re-engineering and returning to localization of product IS SOLUTION.
Is that wanted by the Channels TV or powers? Dont think so. 
They come up wihth what?&gt; BANK OF CARBON? BANK OF POLLUTION?????
ARE YOU KIDDING ME? ?? DON T WE HAVE ENOUGH BANK ISSUES ALREADY? 
NOW TAX BANK POLLUTION? 
That STINKS!

It is obvious to an intelligent person that SOLUTIONS are not seriously sought after. PROFIT is the aim. That is what Peter Holden meant. 

I love Earth. Earth needs to be saved. But when we ship containers around the globe, and produce everything in china cause corporate dictates it s cheap there is no Government that can save earth. Earth is doomed. 

News are not telling the truth. They are not telling that the SOLUTION is NOT TAX. IS RE-ENGINEERING of the WHOLE ECONOMIC MODEL. 
OF THE WHOLE SUPPLY CHAIN.
OF THE WHOLE PRODUCTION STRUCTURE.
OF THE WHOLE ECOSYSTEM. ....
Now they re moving to BIOFUELS. OTHER SCAM!!!!!!!!!!! 
Taking plants and MONO cultivating HUGE AMOUNT OF AREAS!!!! with same plant to make fuel for the idiots to move same amount of unecessary goods from one side to the other of planet!

WHY??????????
IS THAT solution?

Nobody is looking for a real solution.
A real solution would mean that SOCIETY would stop to exist by existing standards. 
It would imply an educational, technological, economical REVOLUTION.
That is not wanted. 

ALSO. IT IS CLEAR as WATER that EARTH like the WHOLE SOLAR SYSTEM IS HEATING UP.
Now. I m not saying humans don t play a role. they do.. damn it. But .. What about the whole solar system? 

BANK and TAX on POLLUTION. That is the biggest JOKE ever. 
believe me. Look outside the box. I m sure you , as the wonderful intelligent person I came to know virtually, you will see it. I didn t at first. I thought long about it. 
Two words say it all. Re-engineering of economy? 
No. Carbon print BANK and TAX.
Said it all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear John, you know I consider you smart, and kind. Not stupid at all.<br />
But be careful what news you believe in.<br />
The people who talk about saving the planet are the people who had signals about what is going to happen long time ago. they had and hold technologies (e.g. washing machine wwithout detergent) which they keep and do not mass produce. They have alternative solutions to the OIL but they do not release it. They are the ones propagating the HOAX of saving EARTH by TAXES when EARTH can be CHANEGD ONLY BY CHANGING THE ECONOMIC MODEL!!!!!!!!!!<br />
Consuming and TAXING is not a solution!!!!!!!!!!<br />
Re-engineering and returning to localization of product IS SOLUTION.<br />
Is that wanted by the Channels TV or powers? Dont think so.<br />
They come up wihth what?&gt; BANK OF CARBON? BANK OF POLLUTION?????<br />
ARE YOU KIDDING ME? ?? DON T WE HAVE ENOUGH BANK ISSUES ALREADY?<br />
NOW TAX BANK POLLUTION?<br />
That STINKS!</p>
<p>It is obvious to an intelligent person that SOLUTIONS are not seriously sought after. PROFIT is the aim. That is what Peter Holden meant. </p>
<p>I love Earth. Earth needs to be saved. But when we ship containers around the globe, and produce everything in china cause corporate dictates it s cheap there is no Government that can save earth. Earth is doomed. </p>
<p>News are not telling the truth. They are not telling that the SOLUTION is NOT TAX. IS RE-ENGINEERING of the WHOLE ECONOMIC MODEL.<br />
OF THE WHOLE SUPPLY CHAIN.<br />
OF THE WHOLE PRODUCTION STRUCTURE.<br />
OF THE WHOLE ECOSYSTEM. &#8230;.<br />
Now they re moving to BIOFUELS. OTHER SCAM!!!!!!!!!!!<br />
Taking plants and MONO cultivating HUGE AMOUNT OF AREAS!!!! with same plant to make fuel for the idiots to move same amount of unecessary goods from one side to the other of planet!</p>
<p>WHY??????????<br />
IS THAT solution?</p>
<p>Nobody is looking for a real solution.<br />
A real solution would mean that SOCIETY would stop to exist by existing standards.<br />
It would imply an educational, technological, economical REVOLUTION.<br />
That is not wanted. </p>
<p>ALSO. IT IS CLEAR as WATER that EARTH like the WHOLE SOLAR SYSTEM IS HEATING UP.<br />
Now. I m not saying humans don t play a role. they do.. damn it. But .. What about the whole solar system? </p>
<p>BANK and TAX on POLLUTION. That is the biggest JOKE ever.<br />
believe me. Look outside the box. I m sure you , as the wonderful intelligent person I came to know virtually, you will see it. I didn t at first. I thought long about it.<br />
Two words say it all. Re-engineering of economy?<br />
No. Carbon print BANK and TAX.<br />
Said it all.</p>
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