Copenhagen: Where Hope And Reality Collide!
Young, concerned faces, thousands of them, marching to save their world.
But the vested interests are there too, arresting people, trying to stifle dissent, crush it!
Friends, it’s all happening in Copenhagan. The collision that is occurring there has immense ramifications. On one side we have the scientists and the thinking people of the world who see what climate change is bringing and what it portends.
On the other side we have the Corporate World, who worship profit and greed at any cost, who don’t want anything to change. Their willing pawns, the Politicians, whose survival largely depends on the largess and taxes of the Corporate World, promise they will do something while they do little or nothing.
The two photographs show the clear divisions. The people march to try and save their world while the police, following orders from their pro-capitalism, pro-business Governments, swoop and arrest them. All too often, the army is also used to control the people, to strike fear into them, to deter them, to render them mute.
While the politicians talk and promise, the Corporate Fat Cats spread their lies and deceptions and threaten huge unemployment if they are controlled or forced to change their environmentally damaging ways.
And the people, who are dependent on the Government and the Corporations for their economic survival, see the changes that are occurring: the floods, the droughts, the extreme storms, the radical changes in the weather, and wonder how bad things will get before change is brought about. Some wonder whether we have already reached the tipping point, the point of no return.
The corporations can no longer be allowed to plunder the world and destroy the planet. They, and the wealthy few who support them, have had their day. They are dinosaurs who no longer belong in this fragile world.
We, the people, must isolate and bring down the corporations and the government which support them.
We, the people, can change the world.
After all, we are many!
N.B. Images thanks to Reuters.
While I wholeheartedly embrace your desire to isolate and remove the global corporations and the criminal politicians who benefit from their largesse, please do not be fooled by their climate change propaganda. The powers that be stand to reap billions of dollars from this scam.
Al Gore and Rachendra Pachauri ( head of the UN IPCC comittee ) are merely two individuals who have already cornered the carbon credits market.
I would have thought that the leaked e-mails from the Climate Research Unit at England’s East Anglia University would have revealed the lies and deception being perpetrated in order to establish this NWO climate change regime.
If you type the name Lord Christopher Monckton into your search engine you will be provided with damning evidence, by a person far more knowledgeable in this matter than myself, as to the true agenda behind this attempt at global governance.
It is my fervent wish that people will tear themselves away from their constant diet of television ( which is merely smoke and mirrors to occupy their minds while the PTB institute their plan for total control over the world and its inhabitants ) aand take the time to conduct their own research on this subject.
Ultimately, whichever side of the argument you believe, a well informed citizenry is an essential component of a democratic society.
Each day we are losing a little more of our freedoms and civil rights. If we do not act now we will truly lose the battle.
I would like to leave you with a quote from Pastor Martin Niemoller, a German theologian, which is particularly relevant today when we are in the throes of the sham “War on Terror”, where everybody is deemed a suspect.
First they came for the communists and I did not speak out – because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out – because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews and I did not speak out – because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me – and there was no one left to speak out for me.
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And when the Jews came for the Christians, no one spoke out.
Senator Orrin Hatch just did a video telling the Jews, he would do all he could for them, since he said that the Mormons think of them as the chosen people. Sheeet. In the meantime, there is a growing epidemic of chid hunger in the USA.
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Peter, as usual your comment is perceptive and brings a clear message. Of course, getting the correct information is difficult in a world where spin, exaggerations and lies predominate! How does the average person who is not a scientist make sense of all the conflicting data?
That there is evidence of global warming is hard to refute but what should be done about opens a real Pandora’s box but the politicians and money grubbers will be in the forefront of any action.
Therese, Mormons are nearly as crazy as the Jews! It frustrates me no end to see so many people still embracing beliefs that are divisive and entirely without foundation.
Cheers.
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Copenhagen at this time of year may not have been the best time and place to have this discussion. It looks really cold there with those kids all bundled up in jackets, scarves, hats and ear muffs and yet their sign says “please don’t melt our future”.
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David G Reply:
December 14th, 2009 at 8:02 am
Perhaps they chose that time knowing that it would be difficult for protesters, Kathy.
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That may very well be true David. They have reasons for everything don’t they? I think tempers run wild when the weather is really hot. So if they had held this event in a place of extreme hot weather there might have been more potential for violence as well.
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Peter, loved your input. Now.. highjack a solar system heating caused by natural causes. add to that the obvious, which is that we pollute uneccessarily. And create the need of a climate Dictatorship where ONE cannot combat against the planet’s “health”. Problem is: why do we have to have 10000 flavours of TOOTH PASTE? Yet the CORPORATION is allowed to produce shit tones of shit, and put it on shelves.. yet we are taxed on all these.. consumers.
Stop consuming people. Stop consuming! THINK
i WORK. i AM TAXED.
i SAVE. i BUY A HOUSE. i AM TAXED ON IT.
Why? It is bought from SAVINGS which were what remained after I WAS TAXED. Why is it taxed again?
I buy a car. Same as above. Taxed again.
I buy petrol for the car. Taxed again.
I eat. Taxed.
I shit. Taxed.
I get sick. I was taxed. But I still pay.
I drive my car on roads built with Money from my Taxes. I GET TAXED AGAIN!!! Road Tax. Toll..
I retire. Taxed.
I die. Pay for it.
I own a grave. Taxed.
See dear John, why I prefer the ocean?
I invest money from my savings from my income which was what is left after taxed and taxed and taxed again.. I risk on wall street.
Loss is mine.
Gain is TAXED!
heheheheheheheheh
What was left untaxed?
AIR people. AIR.
Gore?
Tax on Air.
Solar system is heating up. Little earth is just a tiny bubble.
It won t stay “safe” and cosy forever. Instead of stopping the polllution bonanza, not by the shitty consumer, but by the shitty corporation which brainwashes the consumer and puts useless shit on the market on the shelves on the roads everywhere..
we tax the SHEEP again.
Good for them.
I welcome what is coming. We are co creators of it. We DESERVE IT.
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BTW , if I am not sheep…
I have Trust Funds.
I go parties which I call Charity.
I have fun, I drink expensive drinks, and I give pennies to “help the poor”, while wearing Doce Gabanna, showing off my Sylicone boobs, and the Cartier necklaces of which One Diamond only would cover the whole shebang.
I have corporation structure.
I pay lawyers.
I lobby the ones who create the laws.
I RE-INVEST. In what? Who cares.
I am EXEMPT of taxes.
I even can become FED Chairman and be forgiven by Orgbama cause I forgot again to pay my dues..
Cause I m not sheep.
Dues are not for me.
I just have to pretend I comply.
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Peter Holden
I would love to hear how many metre above sealevel those people who refuse climate change as a hoax, are living ? when warning against :["their climate change propaganda.
The powers that be stand to reap billions of dollars from this scam"""] but at the same time recommend people to CLOSE THEIR EYES “do not watch the grim informations from the television”.
Should it now be detrimental to watch television.? – I recommend people to judge for yourself.
My argument for a UWG is: caused of the single country, cannot solve problems concerning water, air (co2) pollutings etc. issues which do not respect borders.
In other words:
It is NOT fair single countries can FREELY pollute excessively on the cost of other nations.
What is left to decide is what and how much is the pollution and how much to cost. There no other than you and me to pay the bill.
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dear Adina
DONT WORRY ABOUT TAXes. – rather worry about what is left back for living .
It’s not a matter of course there’s something left It’s holly a matter of mother-earth / nature if it will offer something for life on earth to feed from.
Just be thankfully IF there’s something left AND if it’s TOO MUCH, then return it, for times of dire straits –
You’re free to kill me if you think I’m tooo stupid /it’s a bad idea, Adina,
I heard this from a wise man yesterday (on radio) talking about our perception of /to that matter and our relationship to the matter of nature/earth/resources in revolutionary way of talk. [I'll try if I can find and replay it if you will]. a perception of mother nature as ‘GOD’ given, and NOT A MATTER OF COUSE, entity we should be very carefully manipulating / reverse to fit to what humanbeings momentarily prefer to have it.
It’s amazing how the facist goverment, in Denmark exercise /abuse it’s power over the people who just want show their worry for mother earth.
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Anyone with half a brain should be able to see the effects of climate change just by going outside. Here in the northern US winters are much milder than they used to be. We have rain every winter now and much less snow on average. Only a few years ago rain in winter was totally unheard of. Green grass in January just did not happen! Last year had the worst winter in 10 years and it was nothing like the winters as recent as 30 years ago as far as cold weather went. We did have record snows which is something climate experts say happens when temperatures get warmer.
People need to look at the evidence, some of which is right in front of their face, and make their own decisions. Not just beleive what makes them feel good and freeing themselves from having to act on that knowledge.
Then we need to make our government do something about it. It is a government of the people after all.
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Dear John, you know I consider you smart, and kind. Not stupid at all.
But be careful what news you believe in.
The people who talk about saving the planet are the people who had signals about what is going to happen long time ago. they had and hold technologies (e.g. washing machine wwithout detergent) which they keep and do not mass produce. They have alternative solutions to the OIL but they do not release it. They are the ones propagating the HOAX of saving EARTH by TAXES when EARTH can be CHANEGD ONLY BY CHANGING THE ECONOMIC MODEL!!!!!!!!!!
Consuming and TAXING is not a solution!!!!!!!!!!
Re-engineering and returning to localization of product IS SOLUTION.
Is that wanted by the Channels TV or powers? Dont think so.
They come up wihth what?> BANK OF CARBON? BANK OF POLLUTION?????
ARE YOU KIDDING ME? ?? DON T WE HAVE ENOUGH BANK ISSUES ALREADY?
NOW TAX BANK POLLUTION?
That STINKS!
It is obvious to an intelligent person that SOLUTIONS are not seriously sought after. PROFIT is the aim. That is what Peter Holden meant.
I love Earth. Earth needs to be saved. But when we ship containers around the globe, and produce everything in china cause corporate dictates it s cheap there is no Government that can save earth. Earth is doomed.
News are not telling the truth. They are not telling that the SOLUTION is NOT TAX. IS RE-ENGINEERING of the WHOLE ECONOMIC MODEL.
OF THE WHOLE SUPPLY CHAIN.
OF THE WHOLE PRODUCTION STRUCTURE.
OF THE WHOLE ECOSYSTEM. ….
Now they re moving to BIOFUELS. OTHER SCAM!!!!!!!!!!!
Taking plants and MONO cultivating HUGE AMOUNT OF AREAS!!!! with same plant to make fuel for the idiots to move same amount of unecessary goods from one side to the other of planet!
WHY??????????
IS THAT solution?
Nobody is looking for a real solution.
A real solution would mean that SOCIETY would stop to exist by existing standards.
It would imply an educational, technological, economical REVOLUTION.
That is not wanted.
ALSO. IT IS CLEAR as WATER that EARTH like the WHOLE SOLAR SYSTEM IS HEATING UP.
Now. I m not saying humans don t play a role. they do.. damn it. But .. What about the whole solar system?
BANK and TAX on POLLUTION. That is the biggest JOKE ever.
believe me. Look outside the box. I m sure you , as the wonderful intelligent person I came to know virtually, you will see it. I didn t at first. I thought long about it.
Two words say it all. Re-engineering of economy?
No. Carbon print BANK and TAX.
Said it all.
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Coincidentally.. I just found out this :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dt2arDi7K8
How the climate change gang works..
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Hi Adina, your link is a good one. I have listened to Mr. Ball a couple of other times. I don’t think he is a “bought off” scientist.
I compared the climate change to a war in one of my earlier posts because the powers that be say we sheeple always have to be distracted by war or rumors of war to keep us in line. They want a one world government and if that happens there supposedly can be no more wars amongst nations. So they have to give us this big climate change war to fight together.
It’s also almost like a new religious movement. It’s as if these globalist carbon tax gods have stolen the movement from real environmentalists (for profit) and if we don’t believe everything they say, if we don’t OBEY them….then the climate devil will take us to climate hell where we will burn forever and ever!!!!
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Youth in Nashville and Chicago marched and pamphleted to attempt to alert the public about the truths about climate change (dolphins and turtles are freezing off of Maine due to record cold air and Canada is experiencing record cold air), because they do not want to be controlled by a global government imposition of carbon taxes and military control. You can view them at http://www.wearechange.org.
The lame mass media will not show you them.
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Dear friends, the Copenhagen Conference is fizzling. The protesters, many of them, are in jail. The world leaders, fearful of losing votes, procrastinate and argue about trifles.
The forces of mindless greed are winning and the planet is losing. Meanwhile there are worrying reports of more than usual activity by the U.S. air force.
Is Iran firmly in the bomb sites?
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Is there any country on earth that isn’t already a police state? When they had the G-20 meeting in Pittsburg a couple of months ago there were about 300 people who went out to protest and they didn’t show much on tv but one of the web sites said they had about 1200 security forces to back those 300 people off. They even brought out an LRAD sound weapon to disperse the crowd. They had helicopters flying overhead and gun ships in the harbor near by. These greedy world leaders are really taking drastic measures now to hold off the crowds. Seems everyone is beyond anger about one issue or another.
David I haven’t seen as many articles about Iran lately. I’ve seen several about Pakistan now that our military is flying more drones in to hit Taliban targets! Pakistan has become the latest country that we haven’t declared war on and yet we are bombing their land and their people! ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!! Have you guys been getting some more recent news about Iran?
The army has been more active here in my area. The helicopters that I hear throughout the day and into the night are from Ft Campbell Army base. It seems that all of the military bases in our country have been doing more drills on the homeland this year. The pentagon had requested 400,000 of our own troops to be stationed here throughout America in case of a civil war this year. They have been doing military exercises outside of their base area. They have come out into some towns to practice going door to door as a search and seizure exercise. They say they are coordinating with the department of homeland security, FEMA and the local law enforcement agencies in case of a national emergency. Are any of you noticing any irregular military activity in your area?
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Kathy, negative American rhetoric about Iran is relentless and is increasing. I haven’t seen any action by Australian Armed Forces but then I live a long way from any bases, a long way from anywhere really.
Several commenters on this site have mentioned increased activity in the States from helicopters and bombers. Who would no what your warmongering leaders are up to?
You mention a civil war in America. Sheeple don’t make very good revolutionaries, do they?
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kathy Reply:
December 17th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
That’s the frightening part David. Sheeple with guns and no good plan can’t be very good revolutionaries! I’ve heard that revolutions need plans and organization. Civil war however..(maybe I should call it civil unrest) would be different.
Angry people who have lost their homes, jobs, have not seen it coming so they have run out of food and water, so angry that they will attack each other. Poor will want to kill the rich, democrats will want to kill republicans, White supremecy groups will want to kill the illegal aliens, Some fringe Christian groups will want to kill gay people and those who believe that abortions are okay. Many sheeple will kill each other over these several divisive ideas that I’ve mentioned and many others. Society will break down. Our warmongering leaders are planning for it. I don’t know if there are enough ‘awake’ people to pull off a second American revolution or not. Makes my brain hurt to think about it!!
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tried to post 7 times but my posts won t show up.. i don t know why. i ll try again couple of times more.
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dear Adina
I have experienced the same – try to cut the text (if very long)
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The ‘good’ news
Thanks heaven,,, [GOD]
Snow is back, in Copenhagen. We may now cancel the whole issue of global warming as a mistake.
Ship without captain:
From the bridge(of command) in Copenhagen the mates are feverishly trying to circumcastle the cargo in order NOT to capzise. will it happen. – probably not ? the excitment is indeed increasing.
From the real world:
I am very sorry for all the invironmentalist [those who care] first and foremost with the plight of the earth on their minds The way they have been treated in Denmark is disgusting, and a disgrace to a degree that only suits with a facist-goverment.
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