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		<title>By: David G</title>
		<link>http://www.dangerouscreation.com/2009/11/when-did-the-takeover-begin/comment-page-1/#comment-13731</link>
		<dc:creator>David G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 20:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wagelaborer, I agree that America made mistakes right from the beginning but so did a lot of other countries. But they haven&#039;t amassed the world&#039;s biggest armed forces and gone around the world invading and occupying lots of other countries.

America changed following WW2 as if it saw its chance to dominate by stealth (we&#039;re spreading freedom, human rights and democracy). Where America has gone there is destruction, misery, puppet governments, and military bases!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wagelaborer, I agree that America made mistakes right from the beginning but so did a lot of other countries. But they haven&#8217;t amassed the world&#8217;s biggest armed forces and gone around the world invading and occupying lots of other countries.</p>
<p>America changed following WW2 as if it saw its chance to dominate by stealth (we&#8217;re spreading freedom, human rights and democracy). Where America has gone there is destruction, misery, puppet governments, and military bases!</p>
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		<title>By: wagelaborer</title>
		<link>http://www.dangerouscreation.com/2009/11/when-did-the-takeover-begin/comment-page-1/#comment-13719</link>
		<dc:creator>wagelaborer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathy, you sound like my kind of person!

What is with the fingerprints, ID checks, etc.  My kids go along with it also, but I protest the loss of privacy.

I am a nurse.  When I got my license there was not fingerprint requirement, or background check.  Now there is.  I ask the young ones why they put up with it.  They say they want a job, or worse, they internalize the bullshit and say that they are &quot;protecting&quot; their patients against possible murderers. 

As if a murderer would be let out of prison and into nursing school!

Once on an Amtrak train, the conductor asked for my ID.  He had asked most everyone else, and like sheep, they handed it over.  I asked, why?  He said, 9-11, terrorists.  He spread his arms out, like he was expressing the enormity of the threat.  I said, why should I have to lose my civil rights because Bush&#039;s buddies hijacked a plane.  (This was before I knew that 9-11 was an inside job).   I could hear women&#039;s voices around me saying, yeah, yeah.  The conductor started to agree with me.   I was actually ready to show my ID, because I didn&#039;t want to get thrown off the train, but, like you, I wanted to hassle them and make them think. 

The cool thing is that he didn&#039;t ask again for my ID.  And he didn&#039;t ask for anyone else&#039;s either.

As for when the US went wrong, I agree with the posters who track it to the beginning, when the Europeans invaded, killed most of the natives, imported slaves, looted and polluted the environment, attacked their neighbors,( Mexico successfully, Canada not so much), and then spread out to attack smaller countries around the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathy, you sound like my kind of person!</p>
<p>What is with the fingerprints, ID checks, etc.  My kids go along with it also, but I protest the loss of privacy.</p>
<p>I am a nurse.  When I got my license there was not fingerprint requirement, or background check.  Now there is.  I ask the young ones why they put up with it.  They say they want a job, or worse, they internalize the bullshit and say that they are &#8220;protecting&#8221; their patients against possible murderers. </p>
<p>As if a murderer would be let out of prison and into nursing school!</p>
<p>Once on an Amtrak train, the conductor asked for my ID.  He had asked most everyone else, and like sheep, they handed it over.  I asked, why?  He said, 9-11, terrorists.  He spread his arms out, like he was expressing the enormity of the threat.  I said, why should I have to lose my civil rights because Bush&#8217;s buddies hijacked a plane.  (This was before I knew that 9-11 was an inside job).   I could hear women&#8217;s voices around me saying, yeah, yeah.  The conductor started to agree with me.   I was actually ready to show my ID, because I didn&#8217;t want to get thrown off the train, but, like you, I wanted to hassle them and make them think. </p>
<p>The cool thing is that he didn&#8217;t ask again for my ID.  And he didn&#8217;t ask for anyone else&#8217;s either.</p>
<p>As for when the US went wrong, I agree with the posters who track it to the beginning, when the Europeans invaded, killed most of the natives, imported slaves, looted and polluted the environment, attacked their neighbors,( Mexico successfully, Canada not so much), and then spread out to attack smaller countries around the world.</p>
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		<title>By: David G</title>
		<link>http://www.dangerouscreation.com/2009/11/when-did-the-takeover-begin/comment-page-1/#comment-13509</link>
		<dc:creator>David G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kate, I agree with your statement that: &#039;my heart hurts for all the fear pumped into everyone’s lives and there are forces so huge that cannot be easily understood by most average people.&#039;

Most people don&#039;t realize the amount of corporate and political manipulation that they are subjected to or what living in a constant state of fear does to them. You do have to make yourself into a fortress, one you can retreat to when it becomes necessary. In protecting yourself you can better attack the forces of evil!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate, I agree with your statement that: &#8216;my heart hurts for all the fear pumped into everyone’s lives and there are forces so huge that cannot be easily understood by most average people.&#8217;</p>
<p>Most people don&#8217;t realize the amount of corporate and political manipulation that they are subjected to or what living in a constant state of fear does to them. You do have to make yourself into a fortress, one you can retreat to when it becomes necessary. In protecting yourself you can better attack the forces of evil!</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing about this post is I can see there are really good people witha lot of shared wisdom. I thank you all this night before Thanksgiving for sharing in such a respectful way. That is why I read and post here..thank you for all the great links Kathy....Your generous invite would suit me fine and who knows how that could come about? Since I share with David some serious medical issues I  treasure the future instead of fearing what I cannot know or control.. or even much planning..my heart hurts for all the fear pumped inyo everyone&#039;s lives and there are forces so huge that cannot be easily understood by most average people...with this huge build up of fear comes the inevitable and planned aggression. Psy-ops is here...so it becomes very important for us to work our Tikkun (Jewish for your own acre). Our responsibility is not for all the problems of the world...too overwhelming and hurtful to us..use your time and resources the way you see fit....and take good care of yourself...honor ourselves and others...peace to all...Kate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing about this post is I can see there are really good people witha lot of shared wisdom. I thank you all this night before Thanksgiving for sharing in such a respectful way. That is why I read and post here..thank you for all the great links Kathy&#8230;.Your generous invite would suit me fine and who knows how that could come about? Since I share with David some serious medical issues I  treasure the future instead of fearing what I cannot know or control.. or even much planning..my heart hurts for all the fear pumped inyo everyone&#8217;s lives and there are forces so huge that cannot be easily understood by most average people&#8230;with this huge build up of fear comes the inevitable and planned aggression. Psy-ops is here&#8230;so it becomes very important for us to work our Tikkun (Jewish for your own acre). Our responsibility is not for all the problems of the world&#8230;too overwhelming and hurtful to us..use your time and resources the way you see fit&#8230;.and take good care of yourself&#8230;honor ourselves and others&#8230;peace to all&#8230;Kate</p>
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		<title>By: David G</title>
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		<dc:creator>David G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Therese, thanks for your enlightening comment. Once the wars seemed to have some justification. Now America starts them using pretexts that are laughable.

Of course, the millions that imperialist America is killing aren&#039;t laughing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Therese, thanks for your enlightening comment. Once the wars seemed to have some justification. Now America starts them using pretexts that are laughable.</p>
<p>Of course, the millions that imperialist America is killing aren&#8217;t laughing.</p>
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		<title>By: Therese</title>
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		<dc:creator>Therese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Animal Farm pigs took over in 1913, when by stealh they get the Federal Reserve Act passed, the Internal Revenue laws, and the formation of the Anti-Defamation League.  Like dear Eustace Mullins explains so well, as long as there is a private bank controlling the money of a country, that country will always be initiating wars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Animal Farm pigs took over in 1913, when by stealh they get the Federal Reserve Act passed, the Internal Revenue laws, and the formation of the Anti-Defamation League.  Like dear Eustace Mullins explains so well, as long as there is a private bank controlling the money of a country, that country will always be initiating wars.</p>
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		<title>By: David G</title>
		<link>http://www.dangerouscreation.com/2009/11/when-did-the-takeover-begin/comment-page-1/#comment-13405</link>
		<dc:creator>David G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 07:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathy, what a generous soul you are. I greatly appreciate your kind invitation and wish I was in a position to accept it. Family and friends getting together is what is really important, not getting rich or materialism.

However, meeting as we do on this blog is a nice substitute when getting together is impossible. Hope you have a great Thanksgiving!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathy, what a generous soul you are. I greatly appreciate your kind invitation and wish I was in a position to accept it. Family and friends getting together is what is really important, not getting rich or materialism.</p>
<p>However, meeting as we do on this blog is a nice substitute when getting together is impossible. Hope you have a great Thanksgiving!</p>
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		<title>By: Diana Gwinn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diana Gwinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 03:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathy..  just wanted to thank you for the invite. Wish I could take you up on your offer... sounds great. thanks for the links. &quot;War is a Racket&quot; by Smedley Butler has been referenced a lot &amp; Infowars is a good resource. Mike Ruppert in coming here next month for the showing of the doc about him... planning to go. Be well 

Diana</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathy..  just wanted to thank you for the invite. Wish I could take you up on your offer&#8230; sounds great. thanks for the links. &#8220;War is a Racket&#8221; by Smedley Butler has been referenced a lot &amp; Infowars is a good resource. Mike Ruppert in coming here next month for the showing of the doc about him&#8230; planning to go. Be well </p>
<p>Diana</p>
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		<title>By: kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kate the social waters are almost boiling in some ways. I had my tv cut off on October 2nd officially. No more main stream media for me and my kids. I get my news on the internet now. 

But someone sent me a link early this year to watch a video called &quot;The Obama Deception&quot; and from there I started looking at the website that was responsible for creating that movie. I go to infowars.com every day to check out what they are posting as news. 

Some of the articles are far fetched and this may be a controlled opposition sight and the comments section is somewhat sad. But once in a while someone will leave a comment with a link to go watch something such as Derrick Jensen and I go there to check it out. I have found many educational links that way. 

Someone left a link to check out a book called &quot;War is a Racket&quot; I will post it here.

http://www.wanttoknow.info/warisaracket    

I went to the library to try to check the book out but it was already checked out so I will have to try again later.

Here&#039;s another good study in the difference in the fall of Russia and the coming fall of the USA.

http://www.energybulletin.net/node/23259

I hope you can all copy and paste these okay.

The health care debate and the cap and trade debate were all diversions I think. I believe they are diversions to get our attention away from the economic disaster that they&#039;ve caused. 

Our state of being (our attitude) is really all we DO have control over. Everything else in this crazy world is out of control. Diana, I know exactly what you mean with your criminal injustice comment. I believe America has now surpassed every other nation in the number of prisons we have.  Many are held for years for victimless crimes! The economic hard times are causing some governors to say they are going to have to release some of these prisoners. 

Okay, David you don&#039;t have Thanksgiving there. You are invited to come on over and spend Thanksgiving with me and my family in Tennessee. I will pick you up at the airport. Kate, fly down from Michigan and be with us. You can laugh at my southern accent. I will pick you up too. My mother insists on cooking every year but she cooks enough for 50 people and we only have 18 in the family!! Diana and everyone else...come on down!! We can all go walking through the woods or the fields after we eat because it&#039;s the fresh air, open country. Could be fun guys and you&#039;re all invited........We could all be together and be thankful that we all have each other!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate the social waters are almost boiling in some ways. I had my tv cut off on October 2nd officially. No more main stream media for me and my kids. I get my news on the internet now. </p>
<p>But someone sent me a link early this year to watch a video called &#8220;The Obama Deception&#8221; and from there I started looking at the website that was responsible for creating that movie. I go to infowars.com every day to check out what they are posting as news. </p>
<p>Some of the articles are far fetched and this may be a controlled opposition sight and the comments section is somewhat sad. But once in a while someone will leave a comment with a link to go watch something such as Derrick Jensen and I go there to check it out. I have found many educational links that way. </p>
<p>Someone left a link to check out a book called &#8220;War is a Racket&#8221; I will post it here.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wanttoknow.info/warisaracket" rel="nofollow">http://www.wanttoknow.info/warisaracket</a>    </p>
<p>I went to the library to try to check the book out but it was already checked out so I will have to try again later.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another good study in the difference in the fall of Russia and the coming fall of the USA.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.energybulletin.net/node/23259" rel="nofollow">http://www.energybulletin.net/node/23259</a></p>
<p>I hope you can all copy and paste these okay.</p>
<p>The health care debate and the cap and trade debate were all diversions I think. I believe they are diversions to get our attention away from the economic disaster that they&#8217;ve caused. </p>
<p>Our state of being (our attitude) is really all we DO have control over. Everything else in this crazy world is out of control. Diana, I know exactly what you mean with your criminal injustice comment. I believe America has now surpassed every other nation in the number of prisons we have.  Many are held for years for victimless crimes! The economic hard times are causing some governors to say they are going to have to release some of these prisoners. </p>
<p>Okay, David you don&#8217;t have Thanksgiving there. You are invited to come on over and spend Thanksgiving with me and my family in Tennessee. I will pick you up at the airport. Kate, fly down from Michigan and be with us. You can laugh at my southern accent. I will pick you up too. My mother insists on cooking every year but she cooks enough for 50 people and we only have 18 in the family!! Diana and everyone else&#8230;come on down!! We can all go walking through the woods or the fields after we eat because it&#8217;s the fresh air, open country. Could be fun guys and you&#8217;re all invited&#8230;&#8230;..We could all be together and be thankful that we all have each other!!</p>
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		<title>By: David G</title>
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		<dc:creator>David G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathy, hair and urine sample to get a home loan, eh! Perhaps we should all provide a DNA sample and be done with it.

Diana, it&#039;s no wonder that America puts more people in jail than most other countries if these laws apply. And given the nature of jails, people come out worse than they went in. It&#039;s a recipe for disaster.

Kate, Australians don&#039;t have Thanksgiving. That you&#039;re an eternal optimist and can choose your state of being is a great asset and will help you to survive this crazy, greed-driven, violent world. It is indeed a &#039;contradiction in realities.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathy, hair and urine sample to get a home loan, eh! Perhaps we should all provide a DNA sample and be done with it.</p>
<p>Diana, it&#8217;s no wonder that America puts more people in jail than most other countries if these laws apply. And given the nature of jails, people come out worse than they went in. It&#8217;s a recipe for disaster.</p>
<p>Kate, Australians don&#8217;t have Thanksgiving. That you&#8217;re an eternal optimist and can choose your state of being is a great asset and will help you to survive this crazy, greed-driven, violent world. It is indeed a &#8216;contradiction in realities.&#8217;</p>
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