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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 10:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just surfing around and saw you had no one to discuss this topic with (besides people who agree) and decided to take a shot at it. 

&quot;America, behind its deceptive rhetoric,  is an evil, warmongering nation, one driven by greed, love of violence, and delusions of grandeur.

And countries which support it (like Australia, Britain, etc) are misguided, myopic and anti-peace!&quot;


It seems that the basic idea of the post is that america has caused untold amounts of violence on this earth and is thus underserving of support from other nations and peoples. 

Ok, I will admit that America has commited terrible mistakes in its past but I dare you to take any empire in human history that would have done a better job of it. 

We sit here now liveing in a relative golden age of peace and prosperity, using technology created by America and America&#039;s allies, openly critizing the Government of the United States of America. Last time I checked the US government is the most powerful entity on earth. Smart people do not go up to a murderer with a gun and start complaining about how the blood on the walls is ruining their homes feng shui. If the United States is evil and prone to violence that is exactly what you guys are doing. But dont worry we (Even I critize US) arn&#039;t stupid because the United States isn&#039;t evil and is almost the opposite in that it places enormous restrictions upon itself to purposely ward off many &quot;evils&quot;.

General Tirade on how US is the best thing since buttered toast. Check. Sry had to let that out. 

Back to the topic. I think I answered the &quot;evil&quot; part. 

Warmongering: Lets take the present series of wars in Iraq and Afganistan. For one if we wanted to conquer Iraq and subjacate its people we should have finished the job back in 1991... instead we did what we promised and defended Kuwait and let Saddam stay in power. Secondly Al qaeda attacked us numerous times before we got all riled up on 9/11 and if we were warmongering we would have used one of these numerous incidents to attack Afghanistan beforehand. America behaves more like a dumb elephant than a tiger. The mice can bite and scratch and we wont care but al qeada bit us where the sun dont shine and we kind of over reacted in our attempt to regain control of the situation. I know, I have dissolved the entire rational for afghanistan and our mistep in Iraq into an analogy of an elephant having a run in with a nutcracker, please forgive me for my crude sense of humor and look beyond it. There are numerous other cases where the United States was given an excuse to go to war and stopped itself but I want to get finished with this post eventually so I hope you will trust me that the US is far more restrained than it is &quot;warmongering&quot;.

Ill talk about two more topics: Greed and also why it isn&#039;t all that bad to be a country supporting the US. 

Greed: From 1990-forward America has fought in Somalia, Kosovo, Bosnia, Haiti, Afghanistan, and Iraq. All of these except Iraq are about worthless to a 14 trillion dollar superpower. Now Iraq is great with possible un tapped oil reserves greater than even Saudi Arabia. So American&#039;s are greedy bastards intent on stealing the worlds oil? Sorta... The fact is that most Iraqi oil is sold to Asia and Europe and the US only gets about 2-4% of its oil from Iraq. Oh and did I meantion we have to buy it... Thats right we spent hundreds of billions of dollars to invade Iraq to have the imperial pleasure of buying it from them... wtf. The true reason wasn&#039;t greed it was that most americans, from the president on down, believed naively (we americans have truely made this kind of hopeful naivety into an artform) that we could take out our most aggresive enemy in the middle east, secure world oil reserves for future economic security, establish an ally in one of the most anti american regions, establish democracy, and do all this relatively cheaply and quickly. Well cheaply and quickly have definitely been forgotten somewhere and ill leave the rest for history to judge. 

US Supporters: Most countries who are allies or support the US have had some big threat to their existance at one time or another in the 20th century where they basically came pleading for help from the US and luckily enough the US was in a good mood at the time and had interests in their survival. Not to put down US allies as cowardly freeloaders... almost all were the opposite fighting valiantly for their freedom but as a said before the US was reluctant to go &quot;warmongering&quot; and wannabe allies had to convince the US to shed blood, lives, and treasure for them. Once you become a US ally nobody really messes with you (existentially that is... unless you count your people voluntarily succumbing to US consumer culture). The US esstentially asks that you dont attack US allies, don&#039;t prolifferate WMD or aggresively produce them, you dont damage the World Economy (aka US liberal free trade), and that you abide by world wide human rights standards (many exceptions and even US is having trouble with this in the form of unlawful combatant and where to detain them &quot;Gitmo&quot;). Overall in my humble opinion this is a small price to pay for protection from being raped and pillaged. As for Allies of the US being anti peace... lets look at the example of Europe which is almost entirely now comprised of US allies. If you had told a European in 1939 that after 1945 Europe would enter a period of extended peace and after 45 years or so the deeply nationalistic and warlike nations of Europe would start cedeing their power to something called the EU they would have looked at you like you were crazy. Though its nice to think after 1500 years or so of constant civil war that Europeans just decided to beat their swords into plows but it would be a fallacy. The truth is that the US enforced the peace and didnt let the Europeans exert their &quot;freedom&quot; to kill each other and once Europeans understood they couldn&#039;t expand their power militarily anymore they decided to compete peacefully. So from my perspective, in Europe at least, the United States has performed miracles and has brought peace and (inadvertantly) unity. 

Well thats it and I hope to see what you guys can throw back at me ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just surfing around and saw you had no one to discuss this topic with (besides people who agree) and decided to take a shot at it. </p>
<p>&#8220;America, behind its deceptive rhetoric,  is an evil, warmongering nation, one driven by greed, love of violence, and delusions of grandeur.</p>
<p>And countries which support it (like Australia, Britain, etc) are misguided, myopic and anti-peace!&#8221;</p>
<p>It seems that the basic idea of the post is that america has caused untold amounts of violence on this earth and is thus underserving of support from other nations and peoples. </p>
<p>Ok, I will admit that America has commited terrible mistakes in its past but I dare you to take any empire in human history that would have done a better job of it. </p>
<p>We sit here now liveing in a relative golden age of peace and prosperity, using technology created by America and America&#8217;s allies, openly critizing the Government of the United States of America. Last time I checked the US government is the most powerful entity on earth. Smart people do not go up to a murderer with a gun and start complaining about how the blood on the walls is ruining their homes feng shui. If the United States is evil and prone to violence that is exactly what you guys are doing. But dont worry we (Even I critize US) arn&#8217;t stupid because the United States isn&#8217;t evil and is almost the opposite in that it places enormous restrictions upon itself to purposely ward off many &#8220;evils&#8221;.</p>
<p>General Tirade on how US is the best thing since buttered toast. Check. Sry had to let that out. </p>
<p>Back to the topic. I think I answered the &#8220;evil&#8221; part. </p>
<p>Warmongering: Lets take the present series of wars in Iraq and Afganistan. For one if we wanted to conquer Iraq and subjacate its people we should have finished the job back in 1991&#8230; instead we did what we promised and defended Kuwait and let Saddam stay in power. Secondly Al qaeda attacked us numerous times before we got all riled up on 9/11 and if we were warmongering we would have used one of these numerous incidents to attack Afghanistan beforehand. America behaves more like a dumb elephant than a tiger. The mice can bite and scratch and we wont care but al qeada bit us where the sun dont shine and we kind of over reacted in our attempt to regain control of the situation. I know, I have dissolved the entire rational for afghanistan and our mistep in Iraq into an analogy of an elephant having a run in with a nutcracker, please forgive me for my crude sense of humor and look beyond it. There are numerous other cases where the United States was given an excuse to go to war and stopped itself but I want to get finished with this post eventually so I hope you will trust me that the US is far more restrained than it is &#8220;warmongering&#8221;.</p>
<p>Ill talk about two more topics: Greed and also why it isn&#8217;t all that bad to be a country supporting the US. </p>
<p>Greed: From 1990-forward America has fought in Somalia, Kosovo, Bosnia, Haiti, Afghanistan, and Iraq. All of these except Iraq are about worthless to a 14 trillion dollar superpower. Now Iraq is great with possible un tapped oil reserves greater than even Saudi Arabia. So American&#8217;s are greedy bastards intent on stealing the worlds oil? Sorta&#8230; The fact is that most Iraqi oil is sold to Asia and Europe and the US only gets about 2-4% of its oil from Iraq. Oh and did I meantion we have to buy it&#8230; Thats right we spent hundreds of billions of dollars to invade Iraq to have the imperial pleasure of buying it from them&#8230; wtf. The true reason wasn&#8217;t greed it was that most americans, from the president on down, believed naively (we americans have truely made this kind of hopeful naivety into an artform) that we could take out our most aggresive enemy in the middle east, secure world oil reserves for future economic security, establish an ally in one of the most anti american regions, establish democracy, and do all this relatively cheaply and quickly. Well cheaply and quickly have definitely been forgotten somewhere and ill leave the rest for history to judge. </p>
<p>US Supporters: Most countries who are allies or support the US have had some big threat to their existance at one time or another in the 20th century where they basically came pleading for help from the US and luckily enough the US was in a good mood at the time and had interests in their survival. Not to put down US allies as cowardly freeloaders&#8230; almost all were the opposite fighting valiantly for their freedom but as a said before the US was reluctant to go &#8220;warmongering&#8221; and wannabe allies had to convince the US to shed blood, lives, and treasure for them. Once you become a US ally nobody really messes with you (existentially that is&#8230; unless you count your people voluntarily succumbing to US consumer culture). The US esstentially asks that you dont attack US allies, don&#8217;t prolifferate WMD or aggresively produce them, you dont damage the World Economy (aka US liberal free trade), and that you abide by world wide human rights standards (many exceptions and even US is having trouble with this in the form of unlawful combatant and where to detain them &#8220;Gitmo&#8221;). Overall in my humble opinion this is a small price to pay for protection from being raped and pillaged. As for Allies of the US being anti peace&#8230; lets look at the example of Europe which is almost entirely now comprised of US allies. If you had told a European in 1939 that after 1945 Europe would enter a period of extended peace and after 45 years or so the deeply nationalistic and warlike nations of Europe would start cedeing their power to something called the EU they would have looked at you like you were crazy. Though its nice to think after 1500 years or so of constant civil war that Europeans just decided to beat their swords into plows but it would be a fallacy. The truth is that the US enforced the peace and didnt let the Europeans exert their &#8220;freedom&#8221; to kill each other and once Europeans understood they couldn&#8217;t expand their power militarily anymore they decided to compete peacefully. So from my perspective, in Europe at least, the United States has performed miracles and has brought peace and (inadvertantly) unity. </p>
<p>Well thats it and I hope to see what you guys can throw back at me <img src='http://www.dangerouscreation.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Grace</title>
		<link>http://www.dangerouscreation.com/2009/07/2554/comment-page-1/#comment-9438</link>
		<dc:creator>Grace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 19:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Kemosobi, just keep hoping that American democracy doesn’t come to Australia!&quot;

David, this made me think - what a different world if natives could have warned each other. Like, &#039;Hey , when the white man shows up, run and hide in the hills till they leave!&#039;  Also do what you can to make your island or land seem inhospitable so they will leave promptly.   Yo, heads up!  Columbus the killer is on his way&#039;

Bush was the King of opposites.  If he named it a &#039;Healthy Forest Initiative&#039;- you knew that forest was going down.  Same with anything.  If democracy is coming to your land - just look to Iraq and learn all you need to know about American &quot;democracy&quot; abroad.  Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Kemosobi, just keep hoping that American democracy doesn’t come to Australia!&#8221;</p>
<p>David, this made me think &#8211; what a different world if natives could have warned each other. Like, &#8216;Hey , when the white man shows up, run and hide in the hills till they leave!&#8217;  Also do what you can to make your island or land seem inhospitable so they will leave promptly.   Yo, heads up!  Columbus the killer is on his way&#8217;</p>
<p>Bush was the King of opposites.  If he named it a &#8216;Healthy Forest Initiative&#8217;- you knew that forest was going down.  Same with anything.  If democracy is coming to your land &#8211; just look to Iraq and learn all you need to know about American &#8220;democracy&#8221; abroad.  Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: David G</title>
		<link>http://www.dangerouscreation.com/2009/07/2554/comment-page-1/#comment-9413</link>
		<dc:creator>David G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 00:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The same programming applies to American citizens too, Grace. Only the thinking ones escape the net!

Take care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The same programming applies to American citizens too, Grace. Only the thinking ones escape the net!</p>
<p>Take care.</p>
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		<title>By: Grace</title>
		<link>http://www.dangerouscreation.com/2009/07/2554/comment-page-1/#comment-9399</link>
		<dc:creator>Grace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha, no way Jose~  American military personnel are the perfect American.  It is a way of life.  No one more disciplined  - AND unquestioning than a soldier.   Keeps their families shut up too.  SInce they care about their kid they keep their moths shut.  When the kid dies and the parent squacks(sp?), the parent becomes marginalized as a person on the fringes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha, no way Jose~  American military personnel are the perfect American.  It is a way of life.  No one more disciplined  &#8211; AND unquestioning than a soldier.   Keeps their families shut up too.  SInce they care about their kid they keep their moths shut.  When the kid dies and the parent squacks(sp?), the parent becomes marginalized as a person on the fringes.</p>
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		<title>By: David G</title>
		<link>http://www.dangerouscreation.com/2009/07/2554/comment-page-1/#comment-9349</link>
		<dc:creator>David G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grace, with robots on the ground and drones in the air, America could run its wars from the White House and the Pentagon and do away with its military forces!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grace, with robots on the ground and drones in the air, America could run its wars from the White House and the Pentagon and do away with its military forces!</p>
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		<title>By: Grace</title>
		<link>http://www.dangerouscreation.com/2009/07/2554/comment-page-1/#comment-9338</link>
		<dc:creator>Grace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Upcoming Military Robot Could Feed on Dead Bodies.  I don&#039;t know where else to go with information like this.  
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,532492,00.html?test=latestnews

Help!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Upcoming Military Robot Could Feed on Dead Bodies.  I don&#8217;t know where else to go with information like this.<br />
<a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,532492,00.html?test=latestnews" rel="nofollow">http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,532492,00.html?test=latestnews</a></p>
<p>Help!!</p>
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		<title>By: Grace</title>
		<link>http://www.dangerouscreation.com/2009/07/2554/comment-page-1/#comment-9320</link>
		<dc:creator>Grace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So right Wagelaborer.  For a long time I sensed this but never put into so many words.  Your example of the mother in the window in the Bates Hotel, just as though everything were normal, but is concealing a killer!  Is so much of how t can be.  Shocking movie in its day, the idea of it!  Yet, that feeling of living in a movie front set stage is an image that has been in my psyche for some time now.  Who are we really?  I thought we were an impartial nation of laws.  Laws which separated us from the barbarian.  It was all just a story to believe, a social experiment that seemed like it would work, but was murdered in its infancy.  In its place a monster, &quot;in its name.&quot;

It is sad, David.  Things like that are very upsetting for me.  When Julia Butterfly sat in the tree Luna to save it, my heart was totally there with that fight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So right Wagelaborer.  For a long time I sensed this but never put into so many words.  Your example of the mother in the window in the Bates Hotel, just as though everything were normal, but is concealing a killer!  Is so much of how t can be.  Shocking movie in its day, the idea of it!  Yet, that feeling of living in a movie front set stage is an image that has been in my psyche for some time now.  Who are we really?  I thought we were an impartial nation of laws.  Laws which separated us from the barbarian.  It was all just a story to believe, a social experiment that seemed like it would work, but was murdered in its infancy.  In its place a monster, &#8220;in its name.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is sad, David.  Things like that are very upsetting for me.  When Julia Butterfly sat in the tree Luna to save it, my heart was totally there with that fight.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeannie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeannie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It makes me sad and sick what my country is! It could be such a beautiful country using it&#039;s wealth and power to do so much good in the world for all people, instead it only causes more suffering and death.
I can do very little as one person to make the world a better place; I feel very helpless against the forces of the government and corporations that are controlling everything that happens here.
Even if what I can do is small I still keep trying, sometimes only speaking out against some outragous actions, because I feel it is simply wrong to see an evil act and not try to do something to make it right.
But first we need to be able to see the evil which here in the US is often hard to do with all the propoganda we are exposed to every day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It makes me sad and sick what my country is! It could be such a beautiful country using it&#8217;s wealth and power to do so much good in the world for all people, instead it only causes more suffering and death.<br />
I can do very little as one person to make the world a better place; I feel very helpless against the forces of the government and corporations that are controlling everything that happens here.<br />
Even if what I can do is small I still keep trying, sometimes only speaking out against some outragous actions, because I feel it is simply wrong to see an evil act and not try to do something to make it right.<br />
But first we need to be able to see the evil which here in the US is often hard to do with all the propoganda we are exposed to every day.</p>
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		<title>By: John LJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>John LJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wagelaborer

When I write in positive term about America it&#039;s partly because I do not think any country in this world, be it &#039;  North Koria, Iran, Venezuela, should be denoted &#039;evil&#039;, AND/but also  to honour those who fight for the &#039;good&#039;, inside the various countries.

There&#039;s no doubt, America has done &#039;a excellent job&#039; post WWII in painting it self as the good guy, standing up for (the) right and justice.
All those paintings, for me, has  bleached with Serbia-bombing 1999, and COMPLETELY since Iraq 2oo3. - though many other, in Denmark are still (even hystericly - against muslims)  pro Israel/American .- I don&#039;t know procentage for this - but  I am sorry because  this can be ascribed  to  propaganda/ false informations.</description>
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<p>When I write in positive term about America it&#8217;s partly because I do not think any country in this world, be it &#8216;  North Koria, Iran, Venezuela, should be denoted &#8216;evil&#8217;, AND/but also  to honour those who fight for the &#8216;good&#8217;, inside the various countries.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no doubt, America has done &#8216;a excellent job&#8217; post WWII in painting it self as the good guy, standing up for (the) right and justice.<br />
All those paintings, for me, has  bleached with Serbia-bombing 1999, and COMPLETELY since Iraq 2oo3. &#8211; though many other, in Denmark are still (even hystericly &#8211; against muslims)  pro Israel/American .- I don&#8217;t know procentage for this &#8211; but  I am sorry because  this can be ascribed  to  propaganda/ false informations.</p>
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		<title>By: David G</title>
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		<dc:creator>David G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 04:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grace, I was touched by your words. I&#039;ve seen Tahoe and it is magic. When we started building concrete jungles we lost the plot!

Kemosobi, just keep hoping that American democracy doesn&#039;t come to Australia!

Wagelaborer, American propaganda reaches across the world. It comes in film, in books, in plays, in music, the media, the television, every which way. It targets our thinking, renders it inoperative!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grace, I was touched by your words. I&#8217;ve seen Tahoe and it is magic. When we started building concrete jungles we lost the plot!</p>
<p>Kemosobi, just keep hoping that American democracy doesn&#8217;t come to Australia!</p>
<p>Wagelaborer, American propaganda reaches across the world. It comes in film, in books, in plays, in music, the media, the television, every which way. It targets our thinking, renders it inoperative!</p>
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