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		<title>By: q</title>
		<link>http://www.dangerouscreation.com/2008/10/what-the-obama-mccain-debate-revealed/comment-page-1/#comment-1674</link>
		<dc:creator>q</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phill,&lt;br /&gt;
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Sure. We should try harder.&lt;br /&gt;
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<p>Sure. We should try harder.</p>
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		<title>By: Phill</title>
		<link>http://www.dangerouscreation.com/2008/10/what-the-obama-mccain-debate-revealed/comment-page-1/#comment-1673</link>
		<dc:creator>Phill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Q, whether you interact with me is of no concern.I have big shoulders and I can take it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Your assertion that people who work for three dollars out of choice,is totally delusional.As far as numbers and  statistics are concerned, I could care less how many, but hey ten is too many how&#039;s that? Of course you know it runs into the millions.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you believe most Americans that work can afford a home,well I guess if they go around naked and don&#039;t eat it does  seems plausible.&lt;br /&gt;
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Your social welfare system considering the wealth that generated in your country, is akin to something you would find in some of the African states.&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh by the way I have traveled the U.S. and the poverty found in some of your southern states and city&#039;s, like New York,  is very much like the poverty found in places like Soweto in South Africa.Oh and by the way I have been there to.&lt;br /&gt;
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But don&#039;t feel all bad, we nearly had what you have in America under the leadership of our last P.M. John Howard.Fortunately the Australian people are not quite as gullible as Americans,  and he was given short shrift.I must confess, it took slightly longer to get rid of him than George Bush.&lt;br /&gt;
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Making the point what country&#039;s do have full home ownership is to prove what prey tell? That tells me we should all try a bit harder No ?&lt;br /&gt;
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Peace. &lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Q, whether you interact with me is of no concern.I have big shoulders and I can take it.</p>
<p>Your assertion that people who work for three dollars out of choice,is totally delusional.As far as numbers and  statistics are concerned, I could care less how many, but hey ten is too many how&#8217;s that? Of course you know it runs into the millions.</p>
<p>If you believe most Americans that work can afford a home,well I guess if they go around naked and don&#8217;t eat it does  seems plausible.</p>
<p>Your social welfare system considering the wealth that generated in your country, is akin to something you would find in some of the African states.</p>
<p>Oh by the way I have traveled the U.S. and the poverty found in some of your southern states and city&#8217;s, like New York,  is very much like the poverty found in places like Soweto in South Africa.Oh and by the way I have been there to.</p>
<p>But don&#8217;t feel all bad, we nearly had what you have in America under the leadership of our last P.M. John Howard.Fortunately the Australian people are not quite as gullible as Americans,  and he was given short shrift.I must confess, it took slightly longer to get rid of him than George Bush.</p>
<p>Making the point what country&#8217;s do have full home ownership is to prove what prey tell? That tells me we should all try a bit harder No ?</p>
<p>Peace. </p>
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		<title>By: Q</title>
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		<dc:creator>Q</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phill,&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ll interact with you even though you made your comments personal in your original post.  However, I will stop interacting with you if continue to take my comments out of context.     &lt;br /&gt;
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You accurately noted that &quot;some&quot; American&#039;s work for $3 an hour, but you left out all other germane data.  I noted, accurately, that Americans working for $3 an hour are typically kids (earning some spending money).  It is an entry level, part time job.  You also didn&#039;t quantify how many American&#039;s work for $3 an hour which is an extreme minority.  Finally, the same people could take other entry level jobs that pay more (minimum wage is approx $6) - in other words they choose to work for $3 an hour plus tips.    &lt;br /&gt;
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Concerning owning a home.  In America almost everybody that works fulltime can afford to own a home - maybe not the home they want, maybe not in the city they want, but a home.  What society has 100% of their people housed in a home that they own?  Perhaps Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and UAE - ooops, not, the homes belong to a monarch...  &lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phill,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll interact with you even though you made your comments personal in your original post.  However, I will stop interacting with you if continue to take my comments out of context.     </p>
<p>You accurately noted that &#8220;some&#8221; American&#8217;s work for $3 an hour, but you left out all other germane data.  I noted, accurately, that Americans working for $3 an hour are typically kids (earning some spending money).  It is an entry level, part time job.  You also didn&#8217;t quantify how many American&#8217;s work for $3 an hour which is an extreme minority.  Finally, the same people could take other entry level jobs that pay more (minimum wage is approx $6) &#8211; in other words they choose to work for $3 an hour plus tips.    </p>
<p>Concerning owning a home.  In America almost everybody that works fulltime can afford to own a home &#8211; maybe not the home they want, maybe not in the city they want, but a home.  What society has 100% of their people housed in a home that they own?  Perhaps Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and UAE &#8211; ooops, not, the homes belong to a monarch&#8230;  </p>
<p>Q  </p>
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		<title>By: swan</title>
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		<dc:creator>swan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 19:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please check out Erik Hufscmid&#039;s website (he wrote the book HUGE QUESTIONS, and has a video by that name on line, plus much great material).  He argues in his audio that some humans have not evolved much beyond primitivism, and instead of throwing our hands up and saying we deserve going extinct, we should join together and police our species so that the hombres who are bringing the rest of us down, get locked up.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Anyway, Hufschmid (sp) makes great points in his audio series found on line, and I invite you to listen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please check out Erik Hufscmid&#8217;s website (he wrote the book HUGE QUESTIONS, and has a video by that name on line, plus much great material).  He argues in his audio that some humans have not evolved much beyond primitivism, and instead of throwing our hands up and saying we deserve going extinct, we should join together and police our species so that the hombres who are bringing the rest of us down, get locked up.  </p>
<p>Anyway, Hufschmid (sp) makes great points in his audio series found on line, and I invite you to listen.</p>
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		<title>By: Adina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 05:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Phil, thanks heaven :) my country is not US. I have many reasons to I m happy that s the case. And some of them we discussed there....But I believe a big portion of American population are great people. Maybe a bit arrogant at times, but great. My feeling is that their country has been highjacked without some them even realizing it. Or feeling impotent about it...&lt;br /&gt;
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And yes, I ve got a job offer once in Australia, I visited there, and frankly speaking, I cannot deny: it is a great place to live in ... (hej, brother, don t jump with excitement.. :) it is not your merit being born there.. heheheh.. unless you migrated, and then you&#039;re very smart to have done it). I did not migrate, as the salary they were offering me was low and meant leaving the people I love too far behind.. &lt;br /&gt;
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 But you know why I felt that it is one of the best countries to live in? Not because of the politics of the country.. but because of the fact that someohow, people there value life more. They value their evenings, and time on  the beach. They value nature. They take care more of what they eat.. and as trivial as that may sound,to me it  is proof of higher consciousness... as most of the humans on earth would eat cardboard if it tasted good, it was cheap, and big portions.. So .. I m with you on this one. &lt;br /&gt;
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I do not defend people who preach low wages.. Gosh I wish everybody had huge salaries..  But I learned to see another perspective also: funnily enough, poor populations tend to reproduce themselves faster.. and I find it is not fair that the share of the world who reproduce like rats, 5,6 who cares.. demand the same rights.. without awareness or the means to raise decent kids, offer them not financial security and physical time with them, education home, principles other than you have to become rich.. you see.. this world is a sick place. That s why we all basically agree. &lt;br /&gt;
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red necks disguised conservatives are bad. But the &quot;innocent low waged poor&quot; are not necessarily good either. I repeat myself: give a poor tribe african a rolex. next thing you see.. is him wanting to hoover around in a chrisler...snobbing his tribe.&lt;br /&gt;
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Cheers. And happy we re talking :)  &lt;br /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Phil, thanks heaven <img src='http://www.dangerouscreation.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  my country is not US. I have many reasons to I m happy that s the case. And some of them we discussed there&#8230;.But I believe a big portion of American population are great people. Maybe a bit arrogant at times, but great. My feeling is that their country has been highjacked without some them even realizing it. Or feeling impotent about it&#8230;</p>
<p>And yes, I ve got a job offer once in Australia, I visited there, and frankly speaking, I cannot deny: it is a great place to live in &#8230; (hej, brother, don t jump with excitement.. <img src='http://www.dangerouscreation.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  it is not your merit being born there.. heheheh.. unless you migrated, and then you&#8217;re very smart to have done it). I did not migrate, as the salary they were offering me was low and meant leaving the people I love too far behind.. </p>
<p> But you know why I felt that it is one of the best countries to live in? Not because of the politics of the country.. but because of the fact that someohow, people there value life more. They value their evenings, and time on  the beach. They value nature. They take care more of what they eat.. and as trivial as that may sound,to me it  is proof of higher consciousness&#8230; as most of the humans on earth would eat cardboard if it tasted good, it was cheap, and big portions.. So .. I m with you on this one. </p>
<p>I do not defend people who preach low wages.. Gosh I wish everybody had huge salaries..  But I learned to see another perspective also: funnily enough, poor populations tend to reproduce themselves faster.. and I find it is not fair that the share of the world who reproduce like rats, 5,6 who cares.. demand the same rights.. without awareness or the means to raise decent kids, offer them not financial security and physical time with them, education home, principles other than you have to become rich.. you see.. this world is a sick place. That s why we all basically agree. </p>
<p>red necks disguised conservatives are bad. But the &#8220;innocent low waged poor&#8221; are not necessarily good either. I repeat myself: give a poor tribe african a rolex. next thing you see.. is him wanting to hoover around in a chrisler&#8230;snobbing his tribe.</p>
<p>Cheers. And happy we re talking <img src='http://www.dangerouscreation.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
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		<title>By: Phill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 02:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adina, please accept this in the spirit it is offered.&lt;br /&gt;
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I do not hate any race period.And to use that old cliche &quot;Some of my best friends are (put in your own race)&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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But what I do hate with a passion, is conservatives. Ah yes a wasted emotion to be sure, however, as hard as I try, I can never accept their point of view.&lt;br /&gt;
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Scratch a conservative &quot;IN THE MAIN&quot; you will always find a red neck.&lt;br /&gt;
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Any where people are exploited, and in Australia of late, the union movement has gone into bat for a lot of our guest workers, having been grossly underpaid.The people who are doing this are not caring green&#039;s,or paid up members of the Labor Party, of that there is no doubt.&lt;br /&gt;
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But I am not naive, we on the left have our share of racists and greedy people,and it is this sad fact conservatives play on, they have never had any trouble finding half the working class, to beat up on the other half.This sad irony in both our country&#039;s, is why conservatives have had government most of the time.I do not care for them either.So if that is a fault, at least I am consistent. &lt;br /&gt;
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Defending wages of three bucks an hour,and family people having to work three or four jobs a week to exist, is bad in any country.It seems to happen more in yours in my opinion, because your governments have made anything progressive, being akin to communism. &lt;br /&gt;
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In Australia we have had our fair share of historical skeletons,and mad leaders, but I do know this, Australia is the best place in the world to live, and with all of its faults, it is the envy of the world.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adina, please accept this in the spirit it is offered.</p>
<p>I do not hate any race period.And to use that old cliche &#8220;Some of my best friends are (put in your own race)&#8221;</p>
<p>But what I do hate with a passion, is conservatives. Ah yes a wasted emotion to be sure, however, as hard as I try, I can never accept their point of view.</p>
<p>Scratch a conservative &#8220;IN THE MAIN&#8221; you will always find a red neck.</p>
<p>Any where people are exploited, and in Australia of late, the union movement has gone into bat for a lot of our guest workers, having been grossly underpaid.The people who are doing this are not caring green&#8217;s,or paid up members of the Labor Party, of that there is no doubt.</p>
<p>But I am not naive, we on the left have our share of racists and greedy people,and it is this sad fact conservatives play on, they have never had any trouble finding half the working class, to beat up on the other half.This sad irony in both our country&#8217;s, is why conservatives have had government most of the time.I do not care for them either.So if that is a fault, at least I am consistent. </p>
<p>Defending wages of three bucks an hour,and family people having to work three or four jobs a week to exist, is bad in any country.It seems to happen more in yours in my opinion, because your governments have made anything progressive, being akin to communism. </p>
<p>In Australia we have had our fair share of historical skeletons,and mad leaders, but I do know this, Australia is the best place in the world to live, and with all of its faults, it is the envy of the world.</p>
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		<title>By: David G</title>
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		<dc:creator>David G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 12:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peace to you, Adina. May the brightness and goodness of your psyche long continue to radiate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peace to you, Adina. May the brightness and goodness of your psyche long continue to radiate.</p>
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		<title>By: Adina</title>
		<link>http://www.dangerouscreation.com/2008/10/what-the-obama-mccain-debate-revealed/comment-page-1/#comment-1667</link>
		<dc:creator>Adina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 01:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha ha ha.. Checkmate. Beaten at my game, by my own rule heheheheh.. Astute and Concise as always. &lt;br /&gt;
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Me? Defeated in my logic and my intent in two sentences by David. See? Impressed by the conciseness of some of the most insightful/short comments in this blog, I tried to reform, as I am aware of my shortcomings and of speaking far too much.&lt;br /&gt;
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Yet you, David, thought me the lesson I needed to learn one more time? &lt;br /&gt;
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Ha ha ha .. Like a Zen master, David knocked me on my head with my own words.&lt;br /&gt;
Thank you, Master :)&lt;br /&gt;
I m back! :)&lt;br /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha ha ha.. Checkmate. Beaten at my game, by my own rule heheheheh.. Astute and Concise as always. </p>
<p>Me? Defeated in my logic and my intent in two sentences by David. See? Impressed by the conciseness of some of the most insightful/short comments in this blog, I tried to reform, as I am aware of my shortcomings and of speaking far too much.</p>
<p>Yet you, David, thought me the lesson I needed to learn one more time? </p>
<p>Ha ha ha .. Like a Zen master, David knocked me on my head with my own words.<br />
Thank you, Master <img src='http://www.dangerouscreation.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> <br />
I m back! <img src='http://www.dangerouscreation.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: David G</title>
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		<dc:creator>David G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 01:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As if to prove my observation about human cruelty, you are depriving us of your unique insights for a week! How could you, Adina? Please transcend!&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As if to prove my observation about human cruelty, you are depriving us of your unique insights for a week! How could you, Adina? Please transcend!</p>
<p>Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Adina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know David, I know what you stand for. and my comment to anti-american chriticism is not directed against you, not at all. Neither against Phill. Nor against Q. Or NoOneYouKnow. I do not know for sure your nationalities. and you can see my own comments I reserved to attach one on one a supposingly American.. who turned out to be Australian. &lt;br /&gt;
But again. I really do not have anything against either of these nations. I just sometimes manage to get above that level, and tune into a bigger perspective, encompassing histiory, and self detachment... and then i cannot &quot;hate&quot; any nation anymore. The ideas that you promote ar the reason the make me follow your blog so much. The people that I met here, despite opposing views at times, are passionate people, who care and try, their own way. MY COMPLIMENTS TO ALL OF YOU. (except the religious prozelitists who claim supremacy of one religion above other)..&lt;br /&gt;
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To end my ever long as usual comment, i now self impose a one week abstinence from posting here. But I ll keep reading you all.&lt;br /&gt;
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And in Homage to the fact that you liked my metaphor of golfing-god, while we are fighting over trivial matters like nationality and religion.. watch David&#039;s picture of the day: The Devil is playing Monopoly with Humans. &lt;br /&gt;
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And one more: NO PROBLEM CAN BE SOLVED AT THE SAME LEVEL OF CONSCIOUSNESS THAT HAS CREATED IT. EINSTEIN. a Jew. For some. A Buddhist. For others. A genius. For most.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know David, I know what you stand for. and my comment to anti-american chriticism is not directed against you, not at all. Neither against Phill. Nor against Q. Or NoOneYouKnow. I do not know for sure your nationalities. and you can see my own comments I reserved to attach one on one a supposingly American.. who turned out to be Australian. <br />
But again. I really do not have anything against either of these nations. I just sometimes manage to get above that level, and tune into a bigger perspective, encompassing histiory, and self detachment&#8230; and then i cannot &#8220;hate&#8221; any nation anymore. The ideas that you promote ar the reason the make me follow your blog so much. The people that I met here, despite opposing views at times, are passionate people, who care and try, their own way. MY COMPLIMENTS TO ALL OF YOU. (except the religious prozelitists who claim supremacy of one religion above other)..</p>
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To end my ever long as usual comment, i now self impose a one week abstinence from posting here. But I ll keep reading you all.</p>
<p>And in Homage to the fact that you liked my metaphor of golfing-god, while we are fighting over trivial matters like nationality and religion.. watch David&#8217;s picture of the day: The Devil is playing Monopoly with Humans. </p>
<p>And one more: NO PROBLEM CAN BE SOLVED AT THE SAME LEVEL OF CONSCIOUSNESS THAT HAS CREATED IT. EINSTEIN. a Jew. For some. A Buddhist. For others. A genius. For most.</p>
<p>LET&#8217;S TRANSCEND, PEOPLE.</p>
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