Comments on: Driving To Hell http://www.dangerouscreation.com/2008/06/driving-to-hell/ "Argue not with fools, frauds, fops, and fanatics. Seek instead better companions." ----- "Show me a millionaire and I will show you a man who has never thought about the meaning of his life." Thu, 09 Feb 2012 00:38:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: David G http://www.dangerouscreation.com/2008/06/driving-to-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-933 David G Wed, 02 Jul 2008 23:15:35 +0000 #comment-933 Hard to connect romance with 3.5 million litres of horse piss to say nothing of the cubic metres of manure!<br /> <br /> If we humans walked, jogged or ran more we would be healthier and so would our planet. Fat chance! Hard to connect romance with 3.5 million litres of horse piss to say nothing of the cubic metres of manure!

If we humans walked, jogged or ran more we would be healthier and so would our planet. Fat chance!

]]> By: Jonah Bones http://www.dangerouscreation.com/2008/06/driving-to-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-932 Jonah Bones Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:24:43 +0000 #comment-932 Here is another thought. <br /> The energy efficiency of humans , we operate at a net loss , that is the output the body producing energy from food is substantially less than the energy needed to produce raw materials and process them into a meal. <br /> Human powered transportation addresses this imbalance up to the point of using the excess kilojoules we consume.<br /> Here is another thought.
The energy efficiency of humans , we operate at a net loss , that is the output the body producing energy from food is substantially less than the energy needed to produce raw materials and process them into a meal.
Human powered transportation addresses this imbalance up to the point of using the excess kilojoules we consume.

]]> By: Jonah Bones http://www.dangerouscreation.com/2008/06/driving-to-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-931 Jonah Bones Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:05:57 +0000 #comment-931 To kill the romance of horses I remember someone in the early eighties calculating that if the volume of Melbourne's traffic then was replaced with horse drawn traffic , there would be the matter of 3.5 million litres of urine a day to deal with :( To kill the romance of horses I remember someone in the early eighties calculating that if the volume of Melbourne’s traffic then was replaced with horse drawn traffic , there would be the matter of 3.5 million litres of urine a day to deal with :(

]]> By: David G http://www.dangerouscreation.com/2008/06/driving-to-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-930 David G Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:12:32 +0000 #comment-930 Great comment, Michael. The problem is that our whole capitalist system is based on the use of fossil fuels and those who are milking the system for their own benefit are not going to give up their cash cow without a fight!<br /> <br /> Cheers. Great comment, Michael. The problem is that our whole capitalist system is based on the use of fossil fuels and those who are milking the system for their own benefit are not going to give up their cash cow without a fight!

Cheers.

]]> By: Michael Dawson http://www.dangerouscreation.com/2008/06/driving-to-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-929 Michael Dawson Mon, 23 Jun 2008 09:31:59 +0000 #comment-929 Thoughtful, impassioned piece, David.<br /> <br /> Meanwhile, biofuels presently have a negative EROEI ratio, meaning making and delivering them to your tank uses more energy (mostly in the form of hydrocarbons) than they put in your tank.<br /> <br /> And they are also seriously worsening the emerging world food crisis, which is literally killing people in many poor nations.<br /> <br /> Hence, in no sense are biofuels better.<br /> <br /> American liberals and greens, please get a clue! Driving a Prius on used french fry grease is not an answer to anything.<br /> <br /> We need rebuilt railroads and truly pedestrian and bicycle-friendly towns. Cars lead to Carmageddon. They are outdated technology. Way too wasteful to be sustainable, no matter how much "better" they get.<br /> <br /> Wake up! Thoughtful, impassioned piece, David.

Meanwhile, biofuels presently have a negative EROEI ratio, meaning making and delivering them to your tank uses more energy (mostly in the form of hydrocarbons) than they put in your tank.

And they are also seriously worsening the emerging world food crisis, which is literally killing people in many poor nations.

Hence, in no sense are biofuels better.

American liberals and greens, please get a clue! Driving a Prius on used french fry grease is not an answer to anything.

We need rebuilt railroads and truly pedestrian and bicycle-friendly towns. Cars lead to Carmageddon. They are outdated technology. Way too wasteful to be sustainable, no matter how much “better” they get.

Wake up!

]]> By: grace http://www.dangerouscreation.com/2008/06/driving-to-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-928 grace Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:44:25 +0000 #comment-928 That is a good point Lucy. Lets also not forget BioWillie fuel. The car is a wonder - even tho it has encouraged the roughshod grazing and plundering of the land and the overall cementing of the Earth. It also allows us to live in the country and work in the city. But all that commuting _ by mostly single people-units per car and in America that often times means Gigantor S.U.V.'s usually filled with one person and their shoulder bag or briefcase. Also, as highway construction in Hawaii has shown, that much road construction has gone, callously roughshod over Sacred Lands to the distress of the locals. There is alot of inequality in the car Mr. Ford pioneered. Often times people feel judged by the car they drive. You are what you drive is real big in this country, which sux if you are poor. In fact it sux when you are even poorer and only the lowest, poorest, disabled take public transit - with the exception of the San Francisco Bay Area. A real Pandora's Box was opened with the car. Reminds me of the thoughts & sentiments I have had, wondering what this World would be like now if the "Settlers" had shared America with the Natives, as they had so graciously offered to the barely surviving newcomers. After teaching The Europeans how to eat and live in a wild and foreign land, they committed genocide on the Native Americans. My point being that I believe we could have all that we have now, balanced by a healthy Native culture that was allowed to coexisting with the white man's cuture and have a healthy and real democracy. IOW, <br /> Imagine, having our beloved cars without having to destroy our precious Planet Earth. Thanks David. Cheers! That is a good point Lucy. Lets also not forget BioWillie fuel. The car is a wonder – even tho it has encouraged the roughshod grazing and plundering of the land and the overall cementing of the Earth. It also allows us to live in the country and work in the city. But all that commuting _ by mostly single people-units per car and in America that often times means Gigantor S.U.V.’s usually filled with one person and their shoulder bag or briefcase. Also, as highway construction in Hawaii has shown, that much road construction has gone, callously roughshod over Sacred Lands to the distress of the locals. There is alot of inequality in the car Mr. Ford pioneered. Often times people feel judged by the car they drive. You are what you drive is real big in this country, which sux if you are poor. In fact it sux when you are even poorer and only the lowest, poorest, disabled take public transit – with the exception of the San Francisco Bay Area. A real Pandora’s Box was opened with the car. Reminds me of the thoughts & sentiments I have had, wondering what this World would be like now if the “Settlers” had shared America with the Natives, as they had so graciously offered to the barely surviving newcomers. After teaching The Europeans how to eat and live in a wild and foreign land, they committed genocide on the Native Americans. My point being that I believe we could have all that we have now, balanced by a healthy Native culture that was allowed to coexisting with the white man’s cuture and have a healthy and real democracy. IOW,
Imagine, having our beloved cars without having to destroy our precious Planet Earth. Thanks David. Cheers!

]]> By: David G http://www.dangerouscreation.com/2008/06/driving-to-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-927 David G Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:33:00 +0000 #comment-927 Ah, Lucy, but imagine the money that's been made by those who deal in oil, how many billionaires there are! <br /> <br /> In our capitalist world, that's the only thing that matters. Ah, Lucy, but imagine the money that’s been made by those who deal in oil, how many billionaires there are!

In our capitalist world, that’s the only thing that matters.

]]> By: Lucy http://www.dangerouscreation.com/2008/06/driving-to-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-926 Lucy Fri, 20 Jun 2008 09:26:56 +0000 #comment-926 Henry Ford actually designed his cars to run on biofuel, it was the powerful oil industry that rode roughshod over his plans. 70 years later we realise that bio-fuels are actually the better option, Oops. Henry Ford actually designed his cars to run on biofuel, it was the powerful oil industry that rode roughshod over his plans. 70 years later we realise that bio-fuels are actually the better option, Oops.

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