Comments on: Can Human Nature Be Changed? http://www.dangerouscreation.com/2008/01/can_human_nature_be_changed/ "This anti-war blog seeks justice, truth and equality. Like the rainbow, it offers hope." Sat, 31 Jul 2010 06:55:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=6978 By: David G http://www.dangerouscreation.com/2008/01/can_human_nature_be_changed/comment-page-1/#comment-10 David G Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:56:24 +0000 #comment-10 I'm afraid I agree but not because it couldn't be done by genetic engineering, but because the 'Believers' would never allow it! Cheers. I’m afraid I agree but not because it couldn’t be done by genetic engineering, but because the ‘Believers’ would never allow it! Cheers.

]]> By: Frank Lieb http://www.dangerouscreation.com/2008/01/can_human_nature_be_changed/comment-page-1/#comment-9 Frank Lieb Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:40:41 +0000 #comment-9 I wish I could be more optomistic. It will take a mutation or extermination and rebirth of what we call a human. I wish I could be more optomistic. It will take a mutation or extermination and rebirth of what we call a human.

]]> By: David G http://www.dangerouscreation.com/2008/01/can_human_nature_be_changed/comment-page-1/#comment-8 David G Tue, 12 Feb 2008 02:58:57 +0000 #comment-8 Thanks for calling by, Ben. I've tried to deal with this in my post about Corporations on the main page. We have total power over the existence of all Corporations if only we were to join together and use it (don't buy their products, don't work for them, don't buy their shares, etc).<br /> <br /> If we leave it to their conscience we'll wait a long time!<br /> <br /> Cheers. Thanks for calling by, Ben. I’ve tried to deal with this in my post about Corporations on the main page. We have total power over the existence of all Corporations if only we were to join together and use it (don’t buy their products, don’t work for them, don’t buy their shares, etc).

If we leave it to their conscience we’ll wait a long time!

Cheers.

]]> By: Ben88 http://www.dangerouscreation.com/2008/01/can_human_nature_be_changed/comment-page-1/#comment-7 Ben88 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 02:49:29 +0000 #comment-7 There is a growing awareness that the well-being of others is also our well-being. Thinking people know that climate change, like nuclear war, will affect all of us. And if not us today, then our children tomorrow.<br /> <br /> At least in Europe,but also in lots of other places, religious participation is on the decline. Values and morality are increasingly based upon basic human rights and emotional intelligence rather than determined by theology or the sword.<br /> <br /> Other forces, such as 'our nice' multi-national corporations often are a law unto themselves: for them the end justifies the means. I'm referring to the Halliburton's and the oil and the weapon manufacturers. <br /> <br /> How can we bring them to account and respect basic human rights? There is a growing awareness that the well-being of others is also our well-being. Thinking people know that climate change, like nuclear war, will affect all of us. And if not us today, then our children tomorrow.

At least in Europe,but also in lots of other places, religious participation is on the decline. Values and morality are increasingly based upon basic human rights and emotional intelligence rather than determined by theology or the sword.

Other forces, such as ‘our nice’ multi-national corporations often are a law unto themselves: for them the end justifies the means. I’m referring to the Halliburton’s and the oil and the weapon manufacturers.

How can we bring them to account and respect basic human rights?

]]> By: David G http://www.dangerouscreation.com/2008/01/can_human_nature_be_changed/comment-page-1/#comment-6 David G Fri, 01 Feb 2008 06:07:40 +0000 #comment-6 I agree with the theory of your premise, Jonah. If all humans were educated <b>in the proper sense of the word</b> then they could and would operate as independent, rational entities and not engage in activities or actions which threaten peace, etc.<br /> <br /> But alas, that is not the reality! I agree with the theory of your premise, Jonah. If all humans were educated in the proper sense of the word then they could and would operate as independent, rational entities and not engage in activities or actions which threaten peace, etc.

But alas, that is not the reality!

]]> By: Jonah Bones http://www.dangerouscreation.com/2008/01/can_human_nature_be_changed/comment-page-1/#comment-5 Jonah Bones Fri, 01 Feb 2008 05:51:31 +0000 #comment-5 Slowly human nature is changing . <br /> Australia was declared by the British Empire to be 'terra nullis' an empty land . If that had been proclaimed in the local dialect it would have been considered very rude.<br /> It is the concept of government that is failing us. Everything is an aggregate of human actions , the individual must stay responsible for his own. Effecting change is simple in nature , but complex in total. If individuals choose not to work in the factories producing weapons then there is no weapons industry . Naive , idealistic , yes . Very necessary for humans to survive - yes. Slowly human nature is changing .
Australia was declared by the British Empire to be ‘terra nullis’ an empty land . If that had been proclaimed in the local dialect it would have been considered very rude.
It is the concept of government that is failing us. Everything is an aggregate of human actions , the individual must stay responsible for his own. Effecting change is simple in nature , but complex in total. If individuals choose not to work in the factories producing weapons then there is no weapons industry . Naive , idealistic , yes . Very necessary for humans to survive – yes.

]]> By: David G http://www.dangerouscreation.com/2008/01/can_human_nature_be_changed/comment-page-1/#comment-4 David G Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:41:00 +0000 #comment-4 I'm glad I could be of help, Evactive. I’m glad I could be of help, Evactive.

]]> By: Evactive@aol.com http://www.dangerouscreation.com/2008/01/can_human_nature_be_changed/comment-page-1/#comment-3 Evactive@aol.com Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:28:50 +0000 #comment-3 Mr Grayling,<br /> <br /> <br /> You are not living in my reality.<br /> <br /> I am 25 years old and thus far have receive practically nothing, very little, rewarding out of my life.<br /> <br /> No, not really, I agree with what you're saying; it's just that I'm uneasy over the fact that I'll probably have to sleep walk through the next several years of my life unable to consider anything other than the worship of the almighty dollar and hope that my body still functions correctly at the time I'm able to take advantage of the funds I've acquired by living on bread and water (gasp).<br /> <br /> Sometimes I wonder how many out there are as lifeless as I see myself becoming. <br /> <br /> This is reality; I am mad at it. <br /> <br /> Grant me temporary immunity from the law/order consequences and for the right reward I will gleefully engage in the primitive (I get it) behavior you outline above...so long as you could perform some medical miracle that could make it so that it wouldn't weigh down on me psychologically afterwards.<br /> <br /> It's time for me to quit complaining about being a scared little peasant now...perhaps it's time for you to stop trying to be so confusing.<br /> <br /> Yes, I saw your comment at http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/12479.... I came here because your comment was insane, just in a way I wasn't used to. What's the deal? You do not think that there can be democratic socio-economical changes or whatever you call it?<br /> <br /> I look at the democratic presidential candidates and see contradictions between their rhetoric and behavior. John Edwards seems to have earned my respect, because while he hasn't put his money where his mouth is, he is the safest bet on doing so, however naive that bet is. He almost sounds like Kucinich (who is a total freak). The other two are on both sides of the fence. <br /> <br /> Unfortunately, as of the Florida primary, it's not looking too good for Edwards. Unlike some I do not see any kind of media black-out on him...he's in the debates, he's on the talk shows.. Aren't these things that a majority of voters look into?<br /> <br /> The answer is clear to me. The populace is just too ignorant to grasp that Edward's populist message is different from the more corporate Obama and Hillary's; thus the primary has devolved into a weird pageant of racialism and sexuality.<br /> <br /> Nevermind the Republicans!<br /> <br /> I can't give up hope, though.. I see myself as being young, decent looking, and somewhat intelligent.. I can think of something to get ahead a little without destroying my body and then once I have my little taste of life and love I can just reevaluate these things again and do my little part while not giving a damn, which is much more than I can say for most in this country. <br /> <br /> I am saying that I am going to use the system to temporarily gain a few levels of happiness, not to live the American Dream that is a nightmare for so many. I will hopefully be in a position to sacrifice (I'm not necessarily saying martyrdom or grandiosity or something of that nature). I merely need something to lose, per se, before I can personally do anything worthy. <br /> <br /> Maybe before I can do any of this I will destroy myself first or maybe the system will do it for me, maybe disease or a freak accident will do it; be that as it may, whatever goes down, I have already decided my path and will start doing what is required of me to progress along it.<br /> <br /> I, believing your article has been a great supplement to my writing-sleep deprived-and-delerious-catharsis, thanking you, stay this comment.<br /> <br /> Maniacally and implacably,<br /> Evactive@aol.com Mr Grayling,

You are not living in my reality.

I am 25 years old and thus far have receive practically nothing, very little, rewarding out of my life.

No, not really, I agree with what you’re saying; it’s just that I’m uneasy over the fact that I’ll probably have to sleep walk through the next several years of my life unable to consider anything other than the worship of the almighty dollar and hope that my body still functions correctly at the time I’m able to take advantage of the funds I’ve acquired by living on bread and water (gasp).

Sometimes I wonder how many out there are as lifeless as I see myself becoming.

This is reality; I am mad at it.

Grant me temporary immunity from the law/order consequences and for the right reward I will gleefully engage in the primitive (I get it) behavior you outline above…so long as you could perform some medical miracle that could make it so that it wouldn’t weigh down on me psychologically afterwards.

It’s time for me to quit complaining about being a scared little peasant now…perhaps it’s time for you to stop trying to be so confusing.

Yes, I saw your comment at http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/12479…. I came here because your comment was insane, just in a way I wasn’t used to. What’s the deal? You do not think that there can be democratic socio-economical changes or whatever you call it?

I look at the democratic presidential candidates and see contradictions between their rhetoric and behavior. John Edwards seems to have earned my respect, because while he hasn’t put his money where his mouth is, he is the safest bet on doing so, however naive that bet is. He almost sounds like Kucinich (who is a total freak). The other two are on both sides of the fence.

Unfortunately, as of the Florida primary, it’s not looking too good for Edwards. Unlike some I do not see any kind of media black-out on him…he’s in the debates, he’s on the talk shows.. Aren’t these things that a majority of voters look into?

The answer is clear to me. The populace is just too ignorant to grasp that Edward’s populist message is different from the more corporate Obama and Hillary’s; thus the primary has devolved into a weird pageant of racialism and sexuality.

Nevermind the Republicans!

I can’t give up hope, though.. I see myself as being young, decent looking, and somewhat intelligent.. I can think of something to get ahead a little without destroying my body and then once I have my little taste of life and love I can just reevaluate these things again and do my little part while not giving a damn, which is much more than I can say for most in this country.

I am saying that I am going to use the system to temporarily gain a few levels of happiness, not to live the American Dream that is a nightmare for so many. I will hopefully be in a position to sacrifice (I’m not necessarily saying martyrdom or grandiosity or something of that nature). I merely need something to lose, per se, before I can personally do anything worthy.

Maybe before I can do any of this I will destroy myself first or maybe the system will do it for me, maybe disease or a freak accident will do it; be that as it may, whatever goes down, I have already decided my path and will start doing what is required of me to progress along it.

I, believing your article has been a great supplement to my writing-sleep deprived-and-delerious-catharsis, thanking you, stay this comment.

Maniacally and implacably,
Evactive@aol.com

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